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Title: OpenGL is going to be completely rewritten
Post by: paupav on August 21, 2014, 01:26:21 am
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTc2ODQ

It says:
- OpenGL-Next is a ground-up design of a modern 3D+Compute API and will break compatibility with existing OpenGL implementations.

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Title: Re: OpenGL is going to be completely rewritten
Post by: paupav on August 21, 2014, 01:29:09 am
So, It actually isn't worth to start learning OpenGL?
How fast do you think it will be completed?
Title: Re: OpenGL is going to be completely rewritten
Post by: zsbzsb on August 21, 2014, 01:30:07 am
Yea.... yea.... yea.... What do half those "big companies" got to do with OpenGL?
Title: Re: OpenGL is going to be completely rewritten
Post by: paupav on August 21, 2014, 01:38:51 am
Well, they are all in Khronos group and they all wanna improve it because they all use it.
Basically they donate few of their programmers to work on it.
Title: Re: OpenGL is going to be completely rewritten
Post by: binary1248 on August 21, 2014, 01:53:28 am
You know... if you plan on getting a motorcycle license when you are allowed to, it doesn't prevent you from first learning how to ride a bicycle. The same is true about OpenGL. The more you understand how it currently works, the easier you will learn how to use the new API, when it comes out... if that much even ends up being changed...

Quote from: paupav on August 21, 2014, 01:38:51 am
Well, they are all in Khronos group and they all wanna improve it because they all use it.
Let me fix that for you:
Well, they are all in Khronos group and they all wanna improve promote it because they all use make money off of it.

Quote from: paupav on August 21, 2014, 01:38:51 am
Basically they donate few of their programmers to work on it.
You really think that developing a new OpenGL specification has anything to do with programming? It is more likely they send their best lobbyists to the Khronos meetings than any of their real programmers.
Title: Re: OpenGL is going to be completely rewritten
Post by: paupav on August 21, 2014, 01:58:55 am
SO you are one of those guys that finds bad things in everything.
Title: Re: OpenGL is going to be completely rewritten
Post by: binary1248 on August 21, 2014, 02:05:31 am
And you are one of those guys who hasn't seen what has happened in the past? ;)

You know that this is just an announcement... They haven't even said what they imagine the new API would look like. Just the direction they are aiming to go in. You can dream all you want, but at the end of the day, if the API is unusable for whatever reason, nobody will adopt it and we will end up with another Longs Peak... if you even know what I am talking about...
Title: Re: OpenGL is going to be completely rewritten
Post by: paupav on August 21, 2014, 02:44:22 am
But, but big companies are now in it, and they all wanna create API that is as good or better than DirectX. They wanna create next API that will combine OprnGl and OpenGl ES.
Also are you insulting my age? :)
Title: Re: OpenGL is going to be completely rewritten
Post by: binary1248 on August 21, 2014, 03:03:38 am
Quote from: paupav on August 21, 2014, 02:44:22 am
They wanna create next API that will combine OprnGl and OpenGl ES.
This is so wrong, I don't even know how to correct it... They are already combining OpenGL and OpenGL ES with the current API through all those ARB_ES*_compatibility "extensions". Have you actually read more of the... serious documents/presentations directly from Khronos? Or are you just relying on third party media sites to feed you with processed information? Sometimes these sites have no choice other than to hype news so that people like you consume it. First, understand what OpenGL NG is really about and then start to be happy about it, if you are still able to.

Quote from: paupav on August 21, 2014, 02:44:22 am
Also are you insulting my age? :)
If you have to ask this question, then I am more worried about your capability to do a bit of research on your own...
Title: Re: OpenGL is going to be completely rewritten
Post by: paupav on August 21, 2014, 03:10:21 am
I meant without extensions. Extensions will become thing of the past, that's what I've understood. As I said I was thinking about learning something about OpenGl (while I'm completing my SFML practice) and I've stumbled on that article.
Title: Re: OpenGL is going to be completely rewritten
Post by: binary1248 on August 21, 2014, 03:13:41 am
Just learn to use OpenGL 4.5, core, not compatibility. OpenGL NG will take a while to come out... if it doesn't get delayed, or even discarded.
Title: Re: OpenGL is going to be completely rewritten
Post by: paupav on August 21, 2014, 01:42:32 pm
But they need new API urgently, because developers arent happy and they just wanna stick with DIrectX. All the new games have OpenGl version (for Linux and Mac), before developers didn't had that problem.
Title: Re: OpenGL is going to be completely rewritten
Post by: Lolilolight on August 21, 2014, 05:49:34 pm
That's a great news!!!

I'm still stuck with opengl 3.0 on my ubuntu 14.4, and, I haven't found any driver which can support opengl 3.3 or greater yet. (It's very problematic for modern game's developpement on linux, especially for games that require hight performance and a lot of special graphic effects, so I can understand why many developpers are unhappy.
I even don't want to speak about opengl ES versions on more exotic plateforms, it's even worth. (There are so many different extensions to handle, so, it's not the fact that developpers doesn't understand how opengl works, it's the fact that they find that it's too much complicated to handle it with many drivers, standart extensions for every drivers'll be less paintfull.)

A developper lend me a raspberry someday to make my framework work onwich (because he was interested by it), but, the driver didn't support SFML on it, so It didn't worked. (But apparently with SDL it works fine, I say, apparently because, I've never tested his game because, the client of his game isn't portable on ubuntu yet.)

The only solution that I've found now is to use windows for modern games developement.  (But I pefer ubuntu and I don't want to change my OS for that.)
Title: Re: OpenGL is going to be completely rewritten
Post by: paupav on August 21, 2014, 05:58:05 pm
Quote from: Lolilolight on August 21, 2014, 05:49:34 pm
That's a great news!!!

I'm still stuck with opengl 3.0 on my ubuntu 14.4, and, I haven't found any driver which can support opengl 3.3 or greater yet. (It's very problematic for modern game's developpement on linux, especially for games that require hight performance and a lot of special graphic effects, so I can understand why many developpers are unhappy.
I even don't want to speak about opengl ES versions on more exotic plateforms, it's even worth. (There are so many different extensions to handle, so, it's not the fact that developpers doesn't understand how opengl works, it's the fact that they find that it's too much complicated to handle it with many drivers, standart extensions for every drivers'll be less paintfull.)
A developper lend me a raspberry someday to make my framework work onwich (because he was interested by it), but, the driver didn't support SFML on it, so It didn't worked. (But apparently with SDL it works fine, I say, apparently because, I've never tested his game because, the client of his game isn't portable on ubuntu yet.)

The only solution that I've found now is to use windows for modern games developement.  (But I pefer ubuntu and I don't want to change my OS for that.)
This is on my GPU:
OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series 
OpenGL version string: 4.4.12967 Compatibility Profile Context 14.20

You are probably using open source GPU drivers or Intel GPU. Can you post which GPU you have?
Title: Re: OpenGL is going to be completely rewritten
Post by: Lolilolight on August 21, 2014, 06:46:41 pm
Here is my driver :

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lspci | grep VGA
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Park [Mobility Radeon HD 5430/5450/5470]

You're probably using another version of linux than the mine, because, non opensource drivers worked fine on older versions of my ubuntu but on my new version I've a black screen and I can't logon when non opensource drivers are installed, but I don't want to change of ubuntu's version just because of that.

Opengl 3.0 is sufficient for me, for the moment. (I don't want to develop with newer versions of opengl because of the reasons that you've mentionned.)

PS :  I can make optimized code with older versions of opengl, I don't wanna change my code to moddern opengl so. (Just to pretend to obtain a bit more speed but with a very high level of complexity)

Title: Re: OpenGL is going to be completely rewritten
Post by: paupav on August 21, 2014, 07:30:15 pm
I've got black screen with older versions of AMD drivers too. Now that bug is solved. After you install them from their site (http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Latest-LINUX-Beta-Driver.aspx)

If you get black screen I usually solved it by running
sudo aticonfig --initial

YOu have to install drivers from the site. Drivers in Ubuntu repository are outdated.


I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 too. It works perfectly and your GPU is supported!

AMD Mobility Product Family Compatibility ​
AMD Radeon™ HD 8000M Series   AMD Radeon™ HD 6000M Series
AMD Radeon™ HD 7000M Series   ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 5000 Series
Title: Re: OpenGL is going to be completely rewritten
Post by: Lolilolight on August 21, 2014, 08:05:07 pm
Ok, great to know about it!
But for the moment opensource drivers are sufficient.
Title: Re: OpenGL is going to be completely rewritten
Post by: Lolilolight on August 21, 2014, 08:11:08 pm
Neversless, I'll post the log that I've when I try to install the drivers from their website :

Package build failed!
Package build utility output:
./packages/Ubuntu/ati-packager.sh: 294: ./packages/Ubuntu/ati-packager.sh: debclean: not found
dpkg-buildpackage: source package fglrx-installer
dpkg-buildpackage: source version 2:14.200-0ubuntu1
dpkg-buildpackage: source distribution trusty
dpkg-buildpackage: source changed by AMD: Advanced Micro Devices. <http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html>
 dpkg-source --before-build fglrx.1NpZZQ
dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture amd64
 debian/rules build
#Create important strings
for i in 10fglrx \
                         dkms.conf \
                         fglrx.install \
                         fglrx-dev.install \
                         fglrx-dev.links \
                         fglrx-amdcccle.install \
                         fglrx.grub-gfxpayload \
                         fglrx.dirs \
                         fglrx.links \
                         fglrx.postinst \
                         fglrx.postrm \
                         fglrx.preinst \
                         fglrx.prerm \
                         overrides/fglrx; do \
                sed -e "s|#PKGXMODDIR#|usr/lib/fglrx/xorg/modules|g" \
                        -e "s|#LIBDIR#|usr/lib|g" \
                        -e "s|#LIBDIR32#|usr/lib32|g" \
                        -e "s|#BINDIR#|usr/bin|g" \
                        -e "s|#SYSCONFDIR#|etc|g" \
                        -e "s|#MANDIR#|usr/share/man/man1|g" \
                        -e "s|#LDSOCONF#|usr/lib/fglrx/ld.so.conf|g" \
                        -e "s|#ALTLDSOCONF#|usr/lib/fglrx/alt_ld.so.conf|g" \
                        -e "s|#ALTPRIORITY#|1000|g" \
                        -e "s|#PXALTPRIORITY#|900|g" \
                        -e "s|#AUTOSTARTDIR#|etc/xdg/autostart|g" \
                        -e "s|#DATADIR#|usr/share|g" \
                        -e "s|#PKGDESKDIR#|usr/share/fglrx|g" \
                        -e "s|#PKGDATADIR#|usr/share/fglrx|g" \
                        -e "s|#PKGCONFIGDIR#|usr/lib/fglrx|g" \
                        -e "s|#PKGBINDIR#|usr/lib/fglrx/bin|g" \
                        -e "s|#PKGLIBDIR#|usr/lib/fglrx|g" \
                        -e "s|#PKGLIBDIR32#|usr/lib32/fglrx|g" \
                        -e "s|#PKGDRIVERSDIR#|usr/lib/fglrx/xorg|g" \
                        -e "s|#XORGEXTRA#|usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xorg/extra-modules|g" \
                        -e "s|#PKGEXTENSIONDIR#|usr/lib/fglrx/xorg|g" \
                        -e "s|#XORGEXTENSIONSDIR#|usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions|g" \
                        -e "s|#DRIVERNAME#|fglrx|g" \
                        -e "s|#DRIVERDEVNAME#|fglrx-dev|g" \
                        -e "s|#DRIVERSRCNAME#||g" \
                        -e "s|#INCLUDEDIR#|usr/include|g" \
                        -e "s|#PKGLIBCONFDIR#|lib/fglrx|g" \
                        -e "s|#GRUBBLKLISTDIR#|usr/share/grub-gfxpayload-lists/blacklist|g" \
                        -e "s|#PKGXMODDIR#|usr/lib/fglrx/xorg/modules|g" \
                        -e "s|#PXDIR#|usr/lib/pxpress|g" \
                        -e "s|#PXDIR32#|usr/lib32/pxpress|g" \
                        -e "s|#PXXMODDIR#|usr/lib/pxpress/xorg/modules|g" \
                        -e "s|#PXDIRNAME#|pxpress|g" \
                        -e "s|#PXLIBDIR#|usr/lib/pxpress/lib|g" \
                        -e "s|#PXLIBDIR32#|usr/lib32/pxpress/lib|g" \
                        -e "s|#PXLDSOCONF#|usr/lib/pxpress/ld.so.conf|g" \
                        -e "s|#ALTPXLDSOCONF#|usr/lib/pxpress/alt_ld.so.conf|g" \
                        -e "s|#CVERSION#|14.200|g" \
                        -e "s|#SRCXARCH#|xpic_64a|g" \
                        -e "s|#SRCARCH#|x86_64|g" \
                        -e "s|#SRCOTHERARCH#|x86|g" \
                        -e "s|#SRCLIBDIR#|lib64|g" \
                        -e "s|#DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH#|x86_64-linux-gnu|g" \
                        -e "s|#OTHER_ARCH#|i386-linux-gnu|g" \
                        debian/$i.in > debian/$i;      \
        done
# remove exec bit on everything
find arch \
                etc \
                lib \
                module \
                usr \
                xpic_64a     -type f | xargs chmod -x
find: `module': No such file or directory
# set executable on user apps
find arch/x86_64/usr/sbin \
                arch/x86_64/usr/X11R6/bin \
                usr/sbin/ -type f | xargs chmod a+x
# set exec bit on scripts
find lib etc debian -name "*.sh" -type f | xargs chmod +x
# set the permissions on the pxpress scripts
chmod 744 debian/pxpress/switch*
dh build
   dh_testdir
   dh_auto_configure
   dh_auto_build
   dh_auto_test
dh build
 debian/rules binary
# refresh copyright file
cat debian/copyright_stub_0 > debian/copyright
cat usr/share/doc/fglrx/LICENSE.TXT >> debian/copyright
cat debian/copyright_stub_1 >> debian/copyright
# Generate the xserver ABI dependencies
cat debian/substvars >> debian/fglrx.substvars
#Steps that we can't easily represent in debhelper files or .in files yet
# Remove any libraries that may be caught by shell expansion
find . -name libGLE* | xargs rm -f
find . -name libEGL* | xargs rm -f
dh_install -pfglrx    "arch/x86/usr/X11R6/lib/libAMD*.so*"           "usr/lib32/fglrx"
dh_install -pfglrx "arch/x86/usr/X11R6/lib/*.*"           "usr/lib32/fglrx"
dh_install -pfglrx "arch/x86/usr/X11R6/lib/fglrx/*.so*"     "usr/lib32/fglrx"
dh_installdirs -pfglrx "usr/lib32/fglrx"
dh_install -pfglrx "arch/x86/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri"     "usr/lib32/fglrx"
dh_install -pfglrx "arch/x86/usr/lib/*.so*"                 "usr/lib32/fglrx"
# Install the QT libraries
dh_install -pfglrx "arch/x86_64/usr/share/ati/lib64" "usr/share/ati"
for i in \
                        debian/fglrx/usr/lib32/fglrx/dri/fglrx_dri.so \
                        debian/fglrx/usr/lib32/fglrx/*libGL.so.* \
                        ; do execstack -q $i; execstack -c $i; done
/bin/sh: 4: execstack: not found
/bin/sh: 4: execstack: not found
/bin/sh: 4: execstack: not found
/bin/sh: 4: execstack: not found
make: *** [binary-arch] Error 127
dpkg-buildpackage: error: debian/rules binary gave error exit status 2
./packages/Ubuntu/ati-packager.sh: 294: ./packages/Ubuntu/ati-packager.sh: debclean: not found
dpkg-buildpackage: source package fglrx-installer
dpkg-buildpackage: source version 2:14.100-0ubuntu1
dpkg-buildpackage: source distribution trusty
dpkg-buildpackage: source changed by AMD: Advanced Micro Devices. <http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html>
 dpkg-source --before-build fglrx.RRLF6e
dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture amd64
 debian/rules build
#Create important strings
for i in 10fglrx \
                         dkms.conf \
                         fglrx.install \
                         fglrx-dev.install \
                         fglrx-dev.links \
                         fglrx-amdcccle.install \
                         fglrx.grub-gfxpayload \
                         fglrx.dirs \
                         fglrx.links \
                         fglrx.postinst \
                         fglrx.postrm \
                         fglrx.preinst \
                         fglrx.prerm \
                         overrides/fglrx; do \
                sed -e "s|#PKGXMODDIR#|usr/lib/fglrx/xorg/modules|g" \
                        -e "s|#LIBDIR#|usr/lib|g" \
                        -e "s|#LIBDIR32#|usr/lib32|g" \
                        -e "s|#BINDIR#|usr/bin|g" \
                        -e "s|#SYSCONFDIR#|etc|g" \
                        -e "s|#MANDIR#|usr/share/man/man1|g" \
                        -e "s|#LDSOCONF#|usr/lib/fglrx/ld.so.conf|g" \
                        -e "s|#ALTLDSOCONF#|usr/lib/fglrx/alt_ld.so.conf|g" \
                        -e "s|#ALTPRIORITY#|1000|g" \
                        -e "s|#PXALTPRIORITY#|900|g" \
                        -e "s|#AUTOSTARTDIR#|etc/xdg/autostart|g" \
                        -e "s|#DATADIR#|usr/share|g" \
                        -e "s|#PKGDESKDIR#|usr/share/fglrx|g" \
                        -e "s|#PKGDATADIR#|usr/share/fglrx|g" \
                        -e "s|#PKGCONFIGDIR#|usr/lib/fglrx|g" \
                        -e "s|#PKGBINDIR#|usr/lib/fglrx/bin|g" \
                        -e "s|#PKGLIBDIR#|usr/lib/fglrx|g" \
                        -e "s|#PKGLIBDIR32#|usr/lib32/fglrx|g" \
                        -e "s|#PKGDRIVERSDIR#|usr/lib/fglrx/xorg|g" \
                        -e "s|#XORGEXTRA#|usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xorg/extra-modules|g" \
                        -e "s|#PKGEXTENSIONDIR#|usr/lib/fglrx/xorg|g" \
                        -e "s|#XORGEXTENSIONSDIR#|usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions|g" \
                        -e "s|#DRIVERNAME#|fglrx|g" \
                        -e "s|#DRIVERDEVNAME#|fglrx-dev|g" \
                        -e "s|#DRIVERSRCNAME#||g" \
                        -e "s|#INCLUDEDIR#|usr/include|g" \
                        -e "s|#PKGLIBCONFDIR#|lib/fglrx|g" \
                        -e "s|#GRUBBLKLISTDIR#|usr/share/grub-gfxpayload-lists/blacklist|g" \
                        -e "s|#PKGXMODDIR#|usr/lib/fglrx/xorg/modules|g" \
                        -e "s|#PXDIR#|usr/lib/pxpress|g" \
                        -e "s|#PXDIR32#|usr/lib32/pxpress|g" \
                        -e "s|#PXXMODDIR#|usr/lib/pxpress/xorg/modules|g" \
                        -e "s|#PXDIRNAME#|pxpress|g" \
                        -e "s|#PXLIBDIR#|usr/lib/pxpress/lib|g" \
                        -e "s|#PXLIBDIR32#|usr/lib32/pxpress/lib|g" \
                        -e "s|#PXLDSOCONF#|usr/lib/pxpress/ld.so.conf|g" \
                        -e "s|#ALTPXLDSOCONF#|usr/lib/pxpress/alt_ld.so.conf|g" \
                        -e "s|#CVERSION#|14.100|g" \
                        -e "s|#SRCXARCH#|xpic_64a|g" \
                        -e "s|#SRCARCH#|x86_64|g" \
                        -e "s|#SRCOTHERARCH#|x86|g" \
                        -e "s|#SRCLIBDIR#|lib64|g" \
                        -e "s|#DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH#|x86_64-linux-gnu|g" \
                        -e "s|#OTHER_ARCH#|i386-linux-gnu|g" \
                        debian/$i.in > debian/$i;      \
        done
# remove exec bit on everything
find arch \
                etc \
                lib \
                module \
                usr \
                xpic_64a     -type f | xargs chmod -x
find: `module': No such file or directory
# set executable on user apps
find arch/x86_64/usr/sbin \
                arch/x86_64/usr/X11R6/bin \
                usr/sbin/ -type f | xargs chmod a+x
# set exec bit on scripts
find lib etc debian -name "*.sh" -type f | xargs chmod +x
# set the permissions on the pxpress scripts
chmod 744 debian/pxpress/switch*
dh build
   dh_testdir
   dh_auto_configure
   dh_auto_build
   dh_auto_test
dh build
 debian/rules binary
# refresh copyright file
cat debian/copyright_stub_0 > debian/copyright
cat usr/share/doc/fglrx/LICENSE.TXT >> debian/copyright
cat debian/copyright_stub_1 >> debian/copyright
# Generate the xserver ABI dependencies
cat debian/substvars >> debian/fglrx.substvars
#Steps that we can't easily represent in debhelper files or .in files yet
# Remove any libraries that may be caught by shell expansion
find . -name libGLE* | xargs rm -f
find . -name libEGL* | xargs rm -f
dh_install -pfglrx    "arch/x86/usr/X11R6/lib/libAMD*.so*"           "usr/lib32/fglrx"
dh_install -pfglrx "arch/x86/usr/X11R6/lib/*.*"           "usr/lib32/fglrx"
dh_install -pfglrx "arch/x86/usr/X11R6/lib/fglrx/*.so*"     "usr/lib32/fglrx"
dh_installdirs -pfglrx "usr/lib32/fglrx"
dh_install -pfglrx "arch/x86/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri"     "usr/lib32/fglrx"
dh_install -pfglrx "arch/x86/usr/lib/*.so*"                 "usr/lib32/fglrx"
# Install the QT libraries
dh_install -pfglrx "arch/x86_64/usr/share/ati/lib64" "usr/share/ati"
for i in \
                        debian/fglrx/usr/lib32/fglrx/dri/fglrx_dri.so \
                        debian/fglrx/usr/lib32/fglrx/*libGL.so.* \
                        ; do execstack -q $i; execstack -c $i; done
/bin/sh: 4: execstack: not found
/bin/sh: 4: execstack: not found
/bin/sh: 4: execstack: not found
/bin/sh: 4: execstack: not found
make: *** [binary-arch] Error 127
dpkg-buildpackage: error: debian/rules binary gave error exit status 2
[Error] Generate Package - error generating package : Ubuntu/trusty

It seems I've some missing packages but I really don't know how to find and install them.
Title: Re: OpenGL is going to be completely rewritten
Post by: paupav on August 21, 2014, 08:18:17 pm
Quote from: Lolilolight on August 21, 2014, 08:11:08 pm
Neversless, I'll post the log that I've when I try to install the drivers from their website :

(click to show/hide)

It seems I've some missing packages but I really don't know how to find and install them.
did you ran it with sudo sh ./[name of the file].run ?
have you tried second option? (Installing prebuild)
Title: Re: OpenGL is going to be completely rewritten
Post by: Lolilolight on August 21, 2014, 08:26:16 pm
I've found the names of the missing packages.


Now he's trying to install.
Title: Re: OpenGL is going to be completely rewritten
Post by: Jesper Juhl on August 21, 2014, 08:27:34 pm
Please put huge chunks of code/log files/etc under "spoiler" tags and there's no need for full quotes when the original is right above your post (especially when what you quote is huge).
Threads become a pain to read that way >:(
Title: Re: OpenGL is going to be completely rewritten
Post by: paupav on August 21, 2014, 08:29:28 pm
Have you removed old drivers?
Is it working now?
Title: Re: OpenGL is going to be completely rewritten
Post by: Lolilolight on August 21, 2014, 08:29:52 pm
Ok, I just didn't know about spoiler, thanks.
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: OpenGL is going to be completely rewritten
Post by: Laurent on August 21, 2014, 08:33:53 pm
And don't you care about being totally off-topic?
Title: Re: OpenGL is going to be completely rewritten
Post by: paupav on August 21, 2014, 08:48:19 pm
Quote from: Laurent on August 21, 2014, 08:33:53 pm
And don't you care about being totally off-topic?
YOu are THE Laurent Gomila! :O

The one from here:
https://vimeo.com/100557603
Title: Re: OpenGL is going to be completely rewritten
Post by: Lolilolight on August 21, 2014, 09:05:44 pm
Sorry if I'm off-topic.

But I've tried all what you've said, but the black screen remains and it seems I've a too big resolution. (before the black screen appears)
Title: Re: OpenGL is going to be completely rewritten
Post by: paupav on August 21, 2014, 09:27:43 pm
Check your inbox.
Title: Re: OpenGL is going to be completely rewritten
Post by: Lolilolight on August 21, 2014, 10:29:40 pm
Done.
Title: Re: OpenGL is going to be completely rewritten
Post by: zsbzsb on August 21, 2014, 11:35:24 pm
Ok guys..... we really don't need to be notified that you are reading PMs in a public thread.......  :P
Title: Re: OpenGL is going to be completely rewritten
Post by: Laurent on August 22, 2014, 07:40:23 am
This thread has turned into a joke... please don't do it again.