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General => General discussions => Topic started by: Laurent on June 02, 2011, 10:57:03 am
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Hi
When SFML was born a few years ago (I don't remember how many :lol:), I quickly "created" a logo for it, with a set of free icons found on the internet and a random font.
So I was thinking, maybe we can do better now :)
I'm not an expert at drawing logos, but I'm sure there are talented people on this forum. So if you want to give it a try, feel free to design a new logo and post it here.
There are only two conditions:
- the logo has to be under a very permissive license
- it must be compatible with the green and blue theme of the website
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I have made this logo in 15 minutes.
He's very sober.
What do you think ?
(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/456961SFMLLOGOSERIEUX.png) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=456961SFMLLOGOSERIEUX.png)
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without the background :
(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/596807logo.png)
and whith the background :
(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/329559logo.png)
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Second contribution.
First version :
With description.
(click !)
(http://img4.hostingpics.net/thumbs/mini_262490SFMLLOGOFUN.png) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=262490SFMLLOGOFUN.png)
Simple version (only one cloud).
(click !)
(http://img4.hostingpics.net/thumbs/mini_626538SFMLLOGOFUNSIMPLE.png) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=626538SFMLLOGOFUNSIMPLE.png)
Made with The GIMP ;)
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I like the current SFML logo. It is simple, but looks good and has meaningful symbols :)
And there are already some extensions that use a similar logo (e.g. SfGui or JSFML).
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(http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/4870/sfml.png) (http://img545.imageshack.us/i/sfml.png/)
Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)
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I like the current SFML logo. It is simple, but looks good and has meaningful symbols :)
+1. Why not just keep the old logo?
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+1. Why not just keep the old logo?
It's also an option. If most people feel like the current one is good enough, then I'll keep it.
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Well I have nothing against the old logo, I like it in fact but I also like the idea of a new look for SFML 2.
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Well I have nothing against the old logo, I like it in fact but I also like the idea of a new look for SFML 2.
Pretty much what I was thinking.
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I actually liked the original one
But if you insist, I made a logo
I was trying to go for a simple but bold design, and I will add icons on the ring
(http://www.picamatic.com/show/2011/06/05/11/54/7607719_bigthumb.png)
(http://www.sfml-dev.org)
BTW the first one seems to look a bit too much like the SDL logo
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With alpha channel :
(http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/15/sfmllogo.png)
With background based on this forum :
(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/7730/sfmllogobackground.png)
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+1 for this one
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I think logos are best left un-cluttered.
They'd all be better off without the text "Simple Fast Multimedia Library", as per original; which I still think has lots of life left in it.
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I think logos are best left un-cluttered.
They'd all be better off without the text "Simple Fast Multimedia Library", as per original; which I still think has lots of life left in it.
I actually thought about it and took out the "clutter" and it ended up looking cleaner
I'm working on the icons, and I'm only halfway finished:
(http://www.picamatic.com/show/2011/06/06/11/09/7609887_bigthumb.png) (http://www.sfml-dev.org)
It even links to the website :P
I'm testing cel shading and I will brush up the logo after I'm done
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I really like BassMan and David's
Though many seem to like circles XD
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Thanks Groogy
And I think I'm finished with my logo. I'll probably touch it up later
(http://www.picamatic.com/show/2011/06/07/12/12/7609887_bigthumb.png) (http://www.sfml-dev.org)
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I don't really like the icons but David's logo is clearly the one I prefer :p .
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I really like BassMan and David's
me too. the last one from David could be a rejuvenation for 1.6 and the very first one by BassMan for SFML2.
Though many seem to like circles XD
if you like circle, draw a circle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfZp6moucBY#t=3m28)
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David's logo doesn't look bad, but in my opinion it is a bit too much cartoon-style for SFML. I think the old logo makes a more professional impression :)
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I'm agree with nexus.
For me the old logo show exactly what is the sfml.
:)
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I like the effect with the text in David's one; it makes "SFML" really stand out.
But I think you should modify a little bit three of the icons :
- the mouse looks a bit weird, doesn't it ?
- the screen is kind of old. I mean it's a 4:3 ^^
- the joystick is too much hidden; it's hard to distinguish.
Cpl.Bator did also something cool without the multimedia icons! Maybe it's better without them ?
Keep up the good work, all of you guys! :)
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I think the Bassman's first looks too much like the SDL logo. Other than that it looks pretty cool. The second one is too cartoonish.
David's logo looks a lot like the original. It's not a bad thing really, work on the icons a bit and it will look great.
I really like Cpl.Bator's second logo, it would be my choice.
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I like the effect with the text in David's one; it makes "SFML" really stand out.
But I think you should modify a little bit three of the icons :
- the mouse looks a bit weird, doesn't it ?
- the screen is kind of old. I mean it's a 4:3 ^^
- the joystick is too much hidden; it's hard to distinguish.
Cpl.Bator did also something cool without the multimedia icons! Maybe it's better without them ?
Keep up the good work, all of you guys! :)
Thanks for everyone who commented on my submission
I know the icons are crummy. I'll improve them as soon as possible
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Hi.
(http://oi51.tinypic.com/21cwidv.jpg)
If you guys haven't noticed I also like the original one so that's what
I based mine off of :)
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I've finally revamped the logo
Sorry if it took too long, I had to study for finals (I still do, but this is too much fun :D )
Normal:
(http://www.picamatic.com/show/2011/06/09/03/38/7614486_bigthumb.png) (http://www.sfml-dev.org/)
Shiny:
(http://www.picamatic.com/show/2011/06/09/03/40/7614486_bigthumb.png) (http://www.sfml-dev.org/)
JSFML (taking Nexus' advice):
(http://www.picamatic.com/show/2011/06/09/03/38/7614488_bigthumb.png) (http://www.sfml-dev.org/)
Sorry if the JSFML logo doesn't have the shine. If I do get requests, I will add shine to it. Also the pic for JSFML goes to the normal SFML website because I don't think JSFML has an official website, although that doesn't really matter
EDIT: I swapped the logo on the webpage with mine and it came out like this:
(http://www.picamatic.com/show/2011/06/09/03/56/7614499_bigthumb.png) (http://www.picamatic.com/view/7614499_SFML_Preview/)
*Click to enlarge*
Idk, must have been the drop shadow that's been making it "pop out"
I guess it's like Google, always making their logos with the Google theme
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I dunno which one I prefer between your two logos David, I love both :( .
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Wow! David did a good job on improving the logo :D
I think it looks good on the website. Idk that's just me
I kinda liked Cpt.Bator's logo. it's a little dull
Keep up the good work, everyone!
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Weird. Am I the only one with broken image links to David's work?
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What do you mean?
Does your browser block Picamatic?
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What do you mean?
Does your browser block Picamatic?
Firefox, Opera and IE9 all seem to be :(
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What do you mean?
Does your browser block Picamatic?
Firefox, Opera and IE9 all seem to be :(
Wow, that sucks :(
I can't use Imageshack or that other one because it's blocked on my school computer (I'm in school atm)
I'll keep looking for another one
EDIT: Is the website blocked? Click on the image with the website that I posted and see if you're able to see it (it's the very last one I posted, above where it says *Click to Enlarge*)
Here. I hope this works:
(http://img4.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/11370/11370170-holder-459362e39029998a8fc50f376c3521a0.jpg) (http://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=11370170&showlnk=0)
(http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/11370/11370173-holder-b06bc67560d2eafec955f53839a8301e.jpg) (http://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=11370173&showlnk=0)
(http://img1.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/11370/11370182-holder-e6831e0dc6138ecf47b6e71c015dc6d8.jpg) (http://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=11370182&showlnk=0)
(http://img3.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/11370/11370176-holder-cc06a67698da16e474601a5934a68d0b.jpg) (http://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=11370176&showlnk=0)
EDIT: Holy crud, the quality is insanely poor
Try clicking on them for MUCH better quality
Maybe I'll implement Flash with my logo for an awesome effect
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Hmm if yours is selected would you like to make one for rbSFML too? ^^
Like for the Java bindings but with a Ruby instead of a cup of coffee :P
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Thanks David, very nice :)
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Hmm if yours is selected would you like to make one for rbSFML too? ^^
Like for the Java bindings but with a Ruby instead of a cup of coffee :P
Here:
(http://img8.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/11375/11375348-holder-376a9b968e1e82175cd29cdcf569c44c.jpg) (http://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=11375348&showlnk=0)
It's not selected, but whatever
*PLEASE CLICK TO ENLARGE*
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SWEET! You got my vote ^^
Note: My wallpaper now at work 8)
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This begins to please me ;)
What I find a little bit disadvantageous is that the ruby/cup of coffee are so close to the neighbored symbols (that was already a problem at the original JSFML logo). It's a little bit too much on that small space... However I don't know where else to place the ruby/cup of coffee :?
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I don't think any of them is better than the original.
Nevertheless David's logo is the best shown here. I would strongly condemn the shiny version because its readability is very poor.
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I rather like the shiney versions.
The big problem with it is that the background is a fixed color (bluish) with ridged/abrupt edges which makes it difficult to put the image on any background that isn't the exact same shade of blue.
IMO it would be better if it had either more of a clear border around the entire thing (maybe a 3D-pushbutton like effect), or gradually faded off with use of alpha blending.
EDIT:
Also beware that the links to those images are NSFW. I just went to one and saw a nice porn ad with some topless chick. Fortunately nobody at work was looking at my monitor at the time.
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This begins to please me ;)
What I find a little bit disadvantageous is that the ruby/cup of coffee are so close to the neighbored symbols (that was already a problem at the original JSFML logo). It's a little bit too much on that small space... However I don't know where else to place the ruby/cup of coffee :?
I think I may have a solution to that
Disch: Holy crap i never knew that :shock:
Sorry, I can't see the ads, and it's one of the rare non-blocked sites where you can upload images
BTW the background is optional and only for show. I have the psd and can upload it if my design gets picked
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With transparent background (I hope):
SFML:
(http://img1.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/11379/11379176-holder-e3721eb95bb68653735745eb51036e53.jpg) (http://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=11379176&showlnk=0)
JSFML:
(http://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/11379/11379179-holder-744b27d7bdf73e914425b10b47fd5b02.jpg) (http://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=11379179&showlnk=0)
rbSFML:
(http://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/11379/11379182-holder-74bf18acff14d4c726ae5efd9d5648ae.jpg) (http://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=11379182&showlnk=0)
*Click to show the transparent background & better quality*
And scroll down ASAP to avoid the "NSFW" ads that's blocked on my comp :P
EDIT: Jajaja, if you click on the Feature Gallery tab, a warning pops up saying that they don't filter the obscene images, which probably explains why there's creepy ads
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I would make the Java cup of coffee a little bit smaller (the smoke is far above the actual logo at the moment), then one might also recognize it better ;)
P.S.: Could you use direct links to the high quality images? Then we don't need to visit that dubious site...
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Since I had no idea what you were talking about, I just uploaded to my previous site, and I'm pretty sure that there are no ads:
SFML:
(http://www.picamatic.com/show/2011/06/09/09/46/7616250_bigthumb.png) (http://www.picamatic.com/view/7616250_SFML_Logo_REVAMP/)
JSFML:
(http://www.picamatic.com/show/2011/06/09/09/46/7616249_bigthumb.png) (http://www.picamatic.com/view/7616249_JSFML_Logo/)
rbSFML:
(http://www.picamatic.com/show/2011/06/09/09/45/7616248_bigthumb.png) (http://www.picamatic.com/view/7616248_rbSFML_Logo/)
*Click on the image for the same reason as last time*
I'm probably gonna end up vectorizing them to make them look cleaner
EDIT: Oops, I completely looked over your suggestion
JSFML (with smaller cup):
(http://www.picamatic.com/show/2011/06/09/09/51/7616260_bigthumb.png) (http://www.picamatic.com/view/7616260_JSFML_Logo/)
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I like it. :)
Many edges look aliased, though, any way that can be compromised?
I know that's being picky, but overall it's really great, it should be in a fine tuning stage! ;)
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Thanks! :D
Like I said, I might vectorize it at some point to refine the edges
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I like the new logos :)
Btw, you should try hosting the images with http://imgur.com/
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I like the new logos :)
Btw, you should try hosting the images with http://imgur.com/
Like I said, I'm on my school computer, which blocks a lot of useful sites :(
But thanks, anyways :D
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(http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/7629/69965665.png)
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I liked that one as it has a different look than what the current have.
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Cpl.Bator, that looks awesome. :D
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I like Cpl.Bator's logo a lot. Only thing I would change on it is the gear colors. Make the SFML text popout more. :D
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I still do prefer David's work :P . Cpl.Baltor's one is a bit too flashy to me.
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I agree with Ceylo (About the preference to David's work, that is)
Cpl. Bator is pretty decent. It's the gears I don't get. Plus it's blue. Where's the green? :?
Plus it doesn't look like it would blend in with the website. Other than that, it's good
@David, perhaps you should shrink the border around the icons and borders. It gives it a weird cartoon shading feel to it
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I agree with Ceylo (About the preference to David's work, that is)
Cpl. Bator is pretty decent. It's the gears I don't get. Plus it's blue. Where's the green? :?
Plus it doesn't look like it would blend in with the website. Other than that, it's good
@David, perhaps you should shrink the border around the icons and borders. It gives it a weird cartoon shading feel to it
Jajaja, it's kinda the point of cel shading :wink:
Although on a side note, the logo COULD look a little more professional if I thin the borders, although I fear that it'll look kinda weird (I'll probably make them translucent to make it blend in to whatever it's going to be placed in)
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I agree with Ceylo (About the preference to David's work, that is)
Cpl. Bator is pretty decent. It's the gears I don't get. Plus it's blue. Where's the green? :?
Plus it doesn't look like it would blend in with the website. Other than that, it's good
@David, perhaps you should shrink the border around the icons and borders. It gives it a weird cartoon shading feel to it
Laurent want new logo ( cf: title ) , green color is not necessary, the logo must 'be compatible' with this.
The logo blend corectly with the web site, try it.
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Hi
When SFML was born a few years ago (I don't remember how many :lol:), I quickly "created" a logo for it, with a set of free icons found on the internet and a random font.
So I was thinking, maybe we can do better now :)
I'm not an expert at drawing logos, but I'm sure there are talented people on this forum. So if you want to give it a try, feel free to design a new logo and post it here.
There are only two conditions:
- the logo has to be under a very permissive license
- it must be compatible with the green and blue theme of the website
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'Must be compatible' is not 'must use two color', is not the same sentence.
If i'm wrong, correct me.
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'Must be compatible' is not 'must use two color', is not the same sentence.
If i'm wrong, correct me.
Look, I'm not trying to start something here but...
- Laurent clearly stated that it has to be compatible with the green AND blue theme. Not blue. Not green. But both
-You're blue is more of an aqua while the website's blue is more of a slightly grayish electric blue
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I like the logo by David the most, its clean and stylish.
Cpl.Bator logo is cool, but it reminds more of game maker, or construct since they also use gears in their logo.
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When is Laurent gonna put down the hammer and choose one? :P
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This topic is an open discussion, I'm in no hurry to make a decision ;)
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Maybe you should make a new forum with a poll
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I wouldn't do that now, as other users might still come up with new logos.
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I wouldn't do that now, as other users might still come up with new logos.
Good point
Maybe we should set the deadline near SFML2's official release
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Do you like my Holyspirit's style SFML logo ? :lol:
(http://www.alpha-arts.net/SFMLLogoHS.png)
I test something in Cpl.Bator style :
(http://www.alpha-arts.net/logoSFMLSmall.png) (http://www.alpha-arts.net/logoSFMLBig.png)
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Wow! It's good, but it definitely wouldn't be on the website xD
As for the real one, it's a little too bright. And the gears. THEM GEARS :twisted:
:Mr. Green:
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I really think that the Gregouar's logo is the best compromize (from Cpl.Bator) ! Simple, with green & blue colors, and very modern; Greg, you have my vote !
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I think the second from Gregouar is nearly perfect, like David one, but it lacks of the identity SFML has with the current logo, maybe a fusion between them ?
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I took some free and open icons, and try to improve the Gregouar's logo. This is the result : (https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/26_logoSFMLBig.png)
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I just love that :o
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Nice, I especially like the font's 3D lighting.
But I don't know whether the colors integrate well to the homepage. And some symbols probably need a higher resolution. Some should be replaced anyway (honestly, what kind of joystick is that? :D)
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And what do you think about this one ?
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/33_logoSFMLBig7.png)
I've just trying another color for the ellipse and the logo's site integration seems better. I let you judge by yourself : click here (https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/35_preview2.png)
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Dunno, those icons look like they were placed on there without any love: Immense color contrast in that Crystal Clear network globe, Joystick seems totally out of place. Not sure what those gears are supposed to do there either. :P
SFML:
(http://www.picamatic.com/show/2011/06/09/09/46/7616250_bigthumb.png) (http://www.picamatic.com/view/7616250_SFML_Logo_REVAMP/)
In comparison, David's looks way "cuter" and has a clear comic-style theme, which fits a multimedia library more than that clean font. The only drawback are the aliased edges.
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I see that every new logo is very similar to the original one. Don't hesitate to create new things, give SFML a new identity ;)
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Some should be replaced anyway (honestly, what kind of joystick is that?
I have a joystick just like that to my right! :lol:
A gamepad would be a better ident?
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just look here :D :
http://img5.cherchons.com/marchand/pmcdn.priceminister.com/photo/851084360.jpg
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Or here : http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ceyMpYZOVKI/S-fQKtIcLqI/AAAAAAAAAwY/ajLCy2P0S88/s1600/joystick.jpg :D
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Actually the logo's that has come up now is mostly Web2.0 based I feel, especially with the colour scheme so I think it might be pretty hard to come up with something completely new. It would be something else if someone come up with a mascot for SFML or something.
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Actually the logo's that has come up now is mostly Web2.0 based I feel, especially with the colour scheme so I think it might be pretty hard to come up with something completely new. It would be something else if someone come up with a mascot for SFML or something.
A mascot?
And IMO the color scheme shouldn't limit you, and I like the web 2.0 look. It gives a great feel to it and it looks professional and plastic due to shines, such as David's logo
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Hi all,
I'm not a pro graphic designer, but i made a nice try, here is the logo that i made:
(http://kingxerxes.yolasite.com/resources/sfml-dev.png)
hope you like it!
Cheers.
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I say!! :shock:
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Didn't notice this thread before, ill get right on an entry! (if its not too late?)
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@LinkOS, I don't know why but it make me thing about religious stuff...
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@LinkOS, I don't know why but it make me thing about religious stuff...
That was my first association, too ;)
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Ey! Who here doesn't see Laurent as the almighty god with Hiura as his blessed son?
Oh holy maker! Thy who gave us SFML. I bless thee and your son who extended it onto the foreign land of Mac. Please give thy blessing to my program.
Compile!
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You're crazy oO
As for the logo, to me it especially looks.. old ._.
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Hahahaha I can't stop laughing! You're insane! :lol:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd2B6SjMh_w
CRAZY? I think I just knew a little too much ;)
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Made 2 variants!
One with a version number:
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/51_sfml2logo2.png)
And one without:
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/50_sfml2logo.png)
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Not bad Hai, not bad at all. I like the one with the version number. But I think that you can't use red as it goes against the requirements on colour. Check original post for the requirements.
Though the red looks perfekt for it.
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Not bad Hai, not bad at all. I like the one with the version number. But I think that you can't use red as it goes against the requirements on colour. Check original post for the requirements.
Though the red looks perfekt for it.
Ah dammit, missed that. Fixed:
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/52_sfml2logo3.png)
EDIT: PSD file available here: https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/index.php?page=view_file&file_id=36
Everything has a very open and free license, no need to credit for anything.
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I think the logo could be slightly more colorized. Not too much, but a blue gear would probably look quite good (maybe you should try with different blue shades).
By the way, it's "simple fast multimedia library" ;)
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I think the logo could be slightly more colorized. Not too much, but a blue gear would probably look quite good (maybe you should try with different blue shades).
By the way, it's "simple fast multimedia library" ;)
Damnit, cant make that fit in it now, hopefully media will work :P
Well here is revision 4:
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/53_sfml2logo4.png)
PSD: https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/index.php?page=view_file&file_id=37
Edit; Slightly less coloured:
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/54_sfml2logo5.png)
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I really like it. It's the most fitting so far in my opinion that is still a bit different from the current one. So try and get multimedia in there. Or remove the expansion of the abbreviation and go only with SFML.
Plus vi norder måste hålla ihopa ;)
David and yours is my favourites so far.
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I really like it. It's the most fitting so far in my opinion that is still a bit different from the current one. So try and get multimedia in there. Or remove the expansion of the abbreviation and go only with SFML.
Plus vi norder måste hålla ihopa ;)
Actually made it happen, would never think i had enough space there but it made it :D
Gotta stop loitering this thread with thousands of revisions of my entry :P someone compete with me so i feel less guilty!
Ohwell here it is:
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/55_sfml2-logo-final-probably.png)
Hehehehe, totally ;)
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The 3D effect looks good! I have experimented with different colors (thanks for the PSD):
Variation 1
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/56_sfml2-logo-variation1.png)
Variation 2
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/57_sfml2-logo-variation2.png)
Variation 3
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/58_sfml2-logo-variation3.png)
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It's pretty cool. What does it look like when integrated on the main page ? (http://www.sfml-dev.org/)
One small thing, though; what about removing the small screen ? Two screens one the logo seems too much, don't you think ?
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It's pretty cool. What does it look like when integrated on the main page ? (http://www.sfml-dev.org/)
One small thing, though; what about removing the small screen ? Two screens one the logo seems too much, don't you think ?
Thought about that second screen too, but dont really know what to fill the gap with.. Experimented with RJ45 cables etc, but that is what worked best. Also it looks empty with only the globe.
Preview with the logo on the current site(it the current design even will be used with it):
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/59_preview.png)
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The 3D effect looks good! I have experimented with different colors (thanks for the PSD):
Nice, i like the first variation :)
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Hi,
Haikarainen, amazing work man :) really nice job ;)
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Hi,
Haikarainen, amazing work man :) really nice job ;)
Thanks :) Feel free to critisize any flaws, or dl the psd and do it yrself ;)
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I love it a lot, but when integrated into the web page it looks a little cluttered at first sight.
Maybe smaller or perhaps more transparent icons?
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I love it a lot, but when integrated into the web page it looks a little cluttered at first sight.
Maybe smaller or perhaps more transparent icons?
This was just a quick paste, might do it more carefully later when i have time, and when I've seen laurent's reaction to it ;)
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and when I've seen laurent's reaction to it
Gonna be a long time till you get that.
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just awesome, @Nexus, @Haikarainen and any other who has participated to this last one :wink: .
+1 for you.
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Oh, I just colorized it, the honor belongs to Haikarainen 8)
I have modified the logo again a bit. I replaced the small screen with some kind of server (I think it fits better near the internet globe), and the small gear with a clock. I also added a relief to the fonts and the main gear.
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/60_sfml2-logo-variation4.png)
The .psd file can be downloaded here (https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/index.php?page=view_file&file_id=38). If you have good ideas, don't hesitate to modify the logo! I am not extremely skilled, e.g. shade for the big screen can be improved (that is, created at all :)). One issue is also that the L of SFML is too far on the right. It seems like I can't make the font smaller because I don't have the font.
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I just feel in love Nexus :shock:
Open-Source PSD is teh shit ;)
Look what cooperative work can do.
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There's something 'heavy' with the screen and the clock. I don't know exactly what. Maybe it's the bottom-left corner. Maybe it's because the clock is full unlike the gear which has an empty center making it 'lighter'. Maybe the black color of the screen.... Do you see what I mean ?
What does it looks like when the clock is in front of the screen ?
Otherwise the colors are cool. :wink:
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I think it's a bit overstuffed, with too much corners and some small details like the ones on the device at the bottom right.
Keep it as simple and clean as possible. The best logos are those with 1 to 3 colors, one or two shapes, etc.
I personally like the original as it is, people easily remember the ellipse around the SFML letters. There are the devices, no one remember them but they are ok and self explanatory.
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Nice! I like the clock. The servers look like giant cheap speakers tho :P
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You are right, it would probably look better with fewer symbols (maybe the most important ones, like screen, headphones, keyboard/mouse).
Another option is to keep most of the symbols, but instead of overlapping them, we keep enough space, like at the old logo. It would also relativize the heaviness of the screen, if it isn't alone in the foreground.
By the way, does anyone have a good idea for a symbol representing networks? Or is the globe fine? Maybe another one? Or none at all?
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You are right, it would probably look better with fewer symbols (maybe the most important ones, like screen, headphones, keyboard/mouse).
Another option is to keep most of the symbols, but instead of overlapping them, we keep enough space, like at the old logo. It would also relativize the heaviness of the screen, if it isn't alone in the foreground.
By the way, does anyone have a good idea for a symbol representing networks? Or is the globe fine? Maybe another one? Or none at all?
To be REALLY honest i think the whole sfml-site could need some furnishing up :P Whole new concept, but still save the most vital parts of SFML's soul. Btw why dont you use the latest PSD? With the newer cogwheel(3d, less stroke).
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Another idea. I think the logo is not bad, but the ellipse and floating icons seem a little out of place (I did it just to see how it fits).
The basic idea is that the "S" is simple and the "F" is fast. There is no much else to say...
(http://s4.postimage.org/68gpy7sy9/sfml1.png)
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Here's my attempt at the SFML logo!
(http://blendogames.com/dev/sfml_logo.jpg)
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Nice logo Brendon, I'm a big fan of simplicity/clean design. You achieved that nicely. The negative space gives the box a creative look. But... looking at the current logo design, I think your clean logo is too plain. :)
Just my 'simple and fast' opinion. 8)
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Brendon's logo reminds me somehow of Intel. In my opinion, the logo should contain elements that can be associated with SFML, for example the media symbols. Overstuffed is not good, but no stuff at all neither ;)
By the way, jmglez, your link is broken.
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Another idea. I think the logo is not bad, but the ellipse and floating icons seem a little out of place (I did it just to see how it fits).
The basic idea is that the "S" is simple and the "F" is fast. There is no much else to say...
(http://s4.postimage.org/68gpy7sy9/sfml1.png)
if you want to see it : http://postimage.org/image/2ous8eq1w/
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Okay, I have tried to clean up the other logo a little bit. There are still 6 symbols, but the positioning is better organized, similar to the SFML 1 logo. I use another symbol for networking, some shadows have been improved, the "SFML" text is less wide.
Variation 5 (big symbols, the version I prefer):
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/67_sfml2-logo-variation5.png)
Variation 6 (small symbols):
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/68_sfml2-logo-variation6.png)
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Oh great job, the 5° variation is really awesome !
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By the way, jmglez, your link is broken.
That's weird, I can see it...
I hope this works:
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/69_sfml1.png)
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Variation 5 (big symbols, the version I prefer):
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/67_sfml2-logo-variation5.png)
That is so friggin cool, could i have the PSD? Wanna try something with the cogwheel
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Hmm, not so keen on it, but wasted some time on it, so here it is:
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/70_sfml_icon.png)
//edit: hehe, makes me think: soccer time! or time for Grolsch Beer :D
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Not that bad Cuban :D .
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That is so friggin cool, could i have the PSD?
Thanks :)
Of course, here it is: https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/index.php?page=view_file&file_id=39
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AH! IT'S THEM GEARS AGAIN D:
I personally think that the circle offers a showcase of simplicity and speed
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(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/71_bleh.png)
Current result ^^
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Hmm, not so keen on it, but wasted some time on it, so here it is:
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/70_sfml_icon.png)
//edit: hehe, makes me think: soccer time! or time for Grolsch Beer :D
Tbh the most clean entry so far :) really like it !
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Current result ^^
Looks good, especially the silver font. I think the green "2" is a little bit too shiny and colorized. Or the gear's blue is too weak. Maybe, the logo looks even cleaner in the end without the "2"...
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Current result ^^
Looks good, especially the silver font. I think the green "2" is a little bit too shiny and colorized. Or the gear's blue is too weak. Maybe, the logo looks even cleaner in the end without the "2"...
I agree that the current SFML Theme is very colorful and highsaturated, but in my opinion less is more when it comes to design. Less saturation, but still noticable colour tends to give more visual appeal. At the same time i wanted newcomers to focus on the "2" at first sight, since its a new logo, a new version, and alot more new goodies coming. Hence the highsaturated 2.
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I don't know if you're still interested in a new logo, but I made this today.
(http://i.imgur.com/koZWG.png)
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I like that one a lot, PointyStick, was actually thinking about making a simple one myself, you beat me to that. :)
Though it should read "multimedia" instead of just "media". Would be cool if that could fit in somehow.
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(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/71_bleh.png)
Current result ^^
I want to see that gear spin slowly in the background. It would complete me.
It'd make a good SFML splash screen as well.
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(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/71_bleh.png)
Current result ^^
I want to see that gear spin slowly in the background. It would complete me.
It'd make a good SFML splash screen as well.
The PSD is available if you want to play around with it ;)
A GIF wouldn't be optimal for this, perhaps a flash, or just separate the images and just hardcode the animation using rotations?
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I appears I don't have Photoshop, and paint.net/GIMP doesn't seem to open those .psd files properly. :(
Would you be willing to upload separate PNG's of the gear and foreground?
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A revision, this time with the correct text.
(http://i.imgur.com/Gojgl.png)
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I appears I don't have Photoshop, and paint.net/GIMP doesn't seem to open those .psd files properly. :(
Would you be willing to upload separate PNG's of the gear and foreground?
Didn't find my version of the psd, must've not saved it. However, i restored it as much as I could, and separated it into Wheelonly, Textonly, Iconsonly, Text w/ Icons, and full.
Preview:
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/92_SFMLLogo.png)
Download: https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/file/47
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+1 for Haikarainen version
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Ok, I had some fun playing with it. I put to together a 6 second splash movie, It looks pretty bad(my knowledge of video encoding isn't very impressive) but It shows what can be done. It does look very pixel-y, but that might be due to my bad choice of encoding(so many options, I have no idea what they all do :p) and the fact that I'm using Flash 8 rather than a recent one.
The spinning gear is very satisfying to look at. :D
https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/file/48
The archive includes .fla files for a splash based on Haikarainen's logo with the gear spinning slowing in the background, and a .fla with Pointy's logo, with a simple fade-in fade-out.
Also included are 800x600 MPEG videos of the two splash screens.
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Ok, I had some fun playing with it.
Thats cool! Cant really view .fla files tho.
I did also attempt to create a more smooth result using sony vegas video 10, and here is the result:
https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/file/49
Its 1 compressed .mp4, and 1 Sony YUV compressed .avi to maintain max quality, beware tho, the avi is at ~150mb uncompressed.
Made it fade in and out to and from black, and its displayed on a white background. The resolution is the same as the image, so its kinda a preview on how it would look with a fading ingame(since we wanna keep this resolution-independent). I rendered a 20second .avi without fading, and in the same imageresolution, so that you can just draw this as a splash in your application on a white background, and apply fading yourself. Also that gives you more control over how many seconds it will play, keeps it resolutionindependent(since you just draw it in the middle) etc.
Here it is: https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/sfml-full.rar
Didn't have enough space on my service so i just uploaded it to the serverroot :P Its 350mb uncompressed, ~50mb compressed.
I give you these videos in huge quality & filesize so that you can compress them by yourself to fit your needs, i might render a more compressed version of the videos if its wanted, and also render it on a black background. Just tell me if you think its needed!
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That looks great, now I feel hyped up to make a game to stick it in front of. :D
EDIT: The .fla are flash project files.
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That looks great, now I feel hyped up to make a game to stick it in front of. :D
EDIT: The .fla are flash project files.
Made a new, bumpmapped version. Looks a LOT cooler if you ask me :D
Only bumpmap on the wheel: https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/sfml-full-bumpmap.rar
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I just added your logo as a temporary title screen. Gear rotates back and forth at random times/speeds, looks like someone opening a safe! :D
Looks nice.
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I just added your logo as a temporary title screen. Gear rotates back and forth at random times/speeds, looks like someone opening a safe! :D
Looks nice.
Ok? Upload example to sfmluploads.org, lets see this :D
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Very nice idea guys. I'll be stealing this as well =)
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I just added your logo as a temporary title screen. Gear rotates back and forth at random times/speeds, looks like someone opening a safe! :D
Looks nice.
Ok? Upload example to sfmluploads.org, lets see this :D
I'll probably do a short gameplay video as well, it's about time and the game looks reasonably cool so standby.
*EDIT*
https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/file/54
Here's a quick look at the logo without the gameplay part.
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Was gonna animate it using rbSFML and erhm.. did this by mistake XD
https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/file/55
UPDATE: Allright here's a more complete attempt, did 3 different versions:
https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/file/56
I actually like only having the text pulsating in the bottom right because it makes the front more clean. Though if using the gear in the middle we can have that space for displaying what is currently being loaded.
Another UPDATE: https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/file/57
Added a little console in the background that will output what files are being loaded =)
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Was gonna animate it using rbSFML and erhm.. did this by mistake XD
https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/file/55
UPDATE: Allright here's a more complete attempt, did 3 different versions:
https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/file/56
I actually like only having the text pulsating in the bottom right because it makes the front more clean. Though if using the gear in the middle we can have that space for displaying what is currently being loaded.
Another UPDATE: https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/file/57
Added a little console in the background that will output what files are being loaded =)
That looks really neat :)
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My last post about this, don't want to steal the thread but I want to show off ^^
My final loading screen :)
https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/file/60
Thought this looked best and might even be an idea for the logo(except for the moving part)
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groogy: really nice !
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Here is mine:
(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/15/sfmllogo.png)
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I made a splash screen with the SFML Gear logo! Looks pretty cool :)
https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/file/63
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I made a splash screen with the SFML Gear logo! Looks pretty cool :)
https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/file/63
That was HOT! :D liked your combo of colors too!
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Thanks, great job on the logo! If you want to know what the color is it's RGB is 15, 77, 146.
The fading was just a black alpha blended opengl quad, after ten seconds I add + 0.01 to the alpha value until it's equal to 1.
In the application if you press R it will reset the timer and set the value to zero if you wanna watch it again. XD
F1 for the UPS and F2 for the FPS.
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I haven't really been keeping up with the thread...
but I agree, that gear splash is really hot. A still of it would work well for a static logo on the site/forums (you wouldn't want an animating logo).
Seems like it would work well on any backdrop color, too.
Very nice indeed. It has my vote for the new logo (if that counts for anything)
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I like Groogy's more. It feels less cluttered with icons.
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I've used that wheel too but I make the SFML logo passing throught it with transparency. It look like the logo is going to the player
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I like Groogy's more. It feels less cluttered with icons.
True, but I also like the version because of the two spinning gears which gives more the old "thinking" feel because they are rotating together. I don't know, a little steampunk feeling right?
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I'm gonna try to do this in Adobe Illustrator, but I'm not the greatest artist. But I picture a monkey sitting at a computer with his hair blowing back because SFML is so "fast" and so "simple" a monkey can use it. (=
That is in no way an insult or downgrade of the quality of SFML, more just a silly analogy.
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I removed it since it doesn't meet the requirement...
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I removed it since it doesn't meet the requirement...
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I removed it since it doesn't meet the requirement...
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Nice that you want to add more but look at the requirements on the original post of the thread. Laurent specified some things that must be present in the logo's.
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oops, didn't see the blue/green part (:
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I think it's time to revive this topic :)
The "gear" logo seems to be the winner. But there are so many different versions of it... could each author provide its own final version? So that there are only a few logos left, and we can finally make the "official" decision.
I also need to see it in action:
- integrated to the website
- as a 16x16 icon
I have the feeling that smaller versions won't look as good as the big one, it has a lot of (too many?) details inside.
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Here's my example of the gear version, I haven't done the original graphics(and I had to modify the gear color to not look too grayish in comparison to the background) so it doesn't look at it's best. I just like this setup because it goes perfectly with my loading screen ^^
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/176_sfml%20logo%20example.png)
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Final version eh ;) To be honest the current logo fits best in with the site, maybe a whole site renewal could be in place? I could help out with that.
But to the point. My final logo;
The same one as posted earlier; https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/file/47
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/177_logo.png)
Used in site (With 16x16 icon), Few mods to fit in with current site design; https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/178_preview.png Please open in new tab, huge picture.
It was hard to fit SFML with outlined text(black on black is not a good combo) and all so i just took "sf" from the namespace. On the Icon that is. Could create 32x32 and 64x64 icons as well.
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To be honest the current logo fits best in with the site, maybe a whole site renewal could be in place? I could help out with that.
I know. I wish I add time to do that, but... I don't :)
And I don't want to completely leave it to an external contributor, I'd like to keep control on the website's code (both HTML and CSS). But I'm open if you want to discuss it further, we can open a thread in the "Website" section.
Used in site (With 16x16 icon), Few mods to fit in with current site design
I totally love it :shock:
Maybe the "2" should be removed, I don't want the version to be part of the library name. Then the green color could move to the SF (or ML) letters. What do you think?
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I know. I wish I add time to do that, but... I don't :)
And I don't want to completely leave it to an external contributor, I'd like to keep control on the website's code (both HTML and CSS). But I'm open if you want to discuss it further, we can open a thread in the "Website" section.
Allright, that is totally understandable. Though, if something like that would happen, I would ofcourse provide a powerful backend with a flexible frontend. Btw my designskills reach out further than sfmluploads, made that strictly for it to actually work and didnt put focus on design, just thought you would know :P
I totally love it :shock:
Maybe the "2" should be removed, I don't want the version to be part of the library name. Then the green color could move to the SF (or ML) letters. What do you think?
Thank you :)
Here it is without the "2": https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/179_preview2.png
Regarding the green, do you mean on the icon? I tried it and tbh it looks messier. https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/180_previewgreenico.png
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Regarding the green, do you mean on the icon?
No, the website logo. Without the "2" it becomes pure white and gray, it lacks some color.
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Regarding the green, do you mean on the icon?
No, the website logo. Without the "2" it becomes pure white and gray, it lacks some color.
Hmm, this was a tough one, never really worked with green+blue+white as a colorscheme before, had to make some changes to make it fit in.
Heres the outcome; https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/181_preview3.png
In my opinion, a blue+white colorscheme would be way more clean. In my eyes the previous(white text on blue bg) really fits in, and isnt gray at all since the bg is blue.
EDIT; Btw, i tried mixing white and green a lot, didnt really come out nice at all :/
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Hmm ok you're right, the green text is a little bit too much.
The white + blue logo is cleaner, but now I feel like the banner and main menu need an update. Do you think it would be worth working on them, but without changing the whole website?
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Hmm ok you're right, the green text is a little bit too much.
The white + blue logo is cleaner, but now I feel like the banner and main menu need an update. Do you think it would be worth working on them, but without changing the whole website?
Hmm.. That might work with some extra css tweaking to make everything else fit. If not I could just create a whole new design and still maintain your php layout?
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You should also center the "SFML" text. The L is outside of the gear, while the S begins only some pixels after the left gear border. Apart from that, I think the gray version without the "2" looks good for the website.
Concerning the green index on the left, it might look already quite different with some borders/shadowing in the green rounded rectangle and the white font.
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Hmm.. That might work with some extra css tweaking to make everything else fit. If not I could just create a whole new design and still maintain your php layout?
Why not. I think we should talk about it, by e-mail for example.
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Hmm.. That might work with some extra css tweaking to make everything else fit. If not I could just create a whole new design and still maintain your php layout?
Why not. I think we should talk about it, by e-mail for example.
Allright, my preferred mail is Fredrik@Haikarainen.se
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Final version eh ;) To be honest the current logo
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/177_logo.png)
+1 for this one ( can be without '2' )
However, if you don't plan to change site design too much, I'd stay with the old one :)
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Like the gears, but don't like device icons at all.
Haikarainen version is beautiful, but does not resemble the concept of SIMPLE and FAST. And at first look, the impression is that we're talking about a complete engine, not a SIMPLE (!) library.
Another minus is that device icons aren't original. It's a drawback, as for me, and the first time I went on SFML website, I instantly noticed that icons are "stolen", even if they are in public domain. This kind of "theft" is ok when someone is customizing his desktop with a icon theme, but it's not acceptable for a logo, in my opinion, which has to resemble the project it represents.
Look at Qt toolkit. It is by far more complex and provides a huge functionality, think how many icons could they put in their logo... But they've chosen a simple green icon, and it is clear as the library itself. And if miniaturized, it still looks nice.
Like a lot Cuban-Pete, Brendon, jmglez and Cpl.Bator styles, as for me, they have to work a little more on their ideas...
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(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/69_sfml1.png)
+1! That one's really interesting (S simple, F fast, nice idea!).
Even the text only would be enough (I don't like those icons at all), maybe with a rounded rect or something behind it.
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These are my favorites:
Hmm, not so keen on it, but wasted some time on it, so here it is:
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/70_sfml_icon.png)
//edit: hehe, makes me think: soccer time! or time for Grolsch Beer :D
The “circle” a bit bulky in my opinion, it distracts from the text.
A revision, this time with the correct text.
(http://i.imgur.com/Gojgl.png)
Really clean, but it needs a nicer font in my opinion.
Here's my attempt at the SFML logo!
(http://blendogames.com/dev/sfml_logo.jpg)
Really nice!
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As we are nearing the SFML 2 release, I thought I'd resurrect this thread. :) I'm no artist, but here are some logos I drew today:
(http://bp.io/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/sfml_logos.png)
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As we are nearing the SFML 2 release, I thought I'd resurrect this thread
Good idea. SFML still needs a new logo before the 2.0 release :-\
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I can try and make a possible logo myself. I may not be a seasoned artist, but I plan to be one in the future. Maybe after I finish what I am programming right now though, which may take around a week or hopefully less.
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Just want to note:
http://bp.io/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/sfml_logos.png
^ Looks like a PHP logo knockoff.
EDIT: Removed image embedding. The image is huge.
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Just want to note:
http://bp.io/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/sfml_logos.png
^ Looks like a PHP logo knockoff.
EDIT: Removed image embedding. The image is huge.
Googles php logo .. oh its a word in an ellipse, like a million other logos (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=logo+oval&hl=en&tbo=u&tbm=isch)! ;)
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Just want to note:
http://bp.io/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/sfml_logos.png
^ Looks like a PHP logo knockoff.
EDIT: Removed image embedding. The image is huge.
Googles php logo .. oh its a word in an ellipse, like a million other logos (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=logo+oval&hl=en&tbo=u&tbm=isch)! ;)
I was talking about the color schemes/font being similar...
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O right, cool. :)
The font is Droid Sans and the colour is just a placeholder, as Laurent mentioned that he'd like to stick with the current blue and green.
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Am I the only one that thinks the hovering icons (in every logo) are clutterish (and ironic with the "simple" in SFML) and detract from the overall attempt of the logo?
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EDIT: Removed image embedding. The image is huge.
You can define a width in the img tag and the forum software will automatically resize the image. ;)
Am I the only one that thinks the hovering icons (in every logo) are clutterish (and ironic with the "simple" in SFML) and detract from the overall attempt of the logo?
Well 'simple' doesn't imply content/feature less and that's what the icons are representing quite literary.
But I also get the feeling that the icons don't fully fit into all the logos. I guess it's quite hard to nicely combine them... ;)
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Am I the only one that thinks the hovering icons (in every logo) are clutterish (and ironic with the "simple" in SFML) and detract from the overall attempt of the logo?
Well 'simple' doesn't imply content/feature less and that's what the icons are representing quite literary.
I didn't mean "simple" as in content/feature-less, but as in clean, easy to use interface (i.e. it is simple/easy to use SFML and it makes your life/the rest of your code code simple if you use SFML). I just feel like the icons, ironically, have the opposite effect on the logo.
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I agree; the random floating joysticks and keyboards look clunky. Even in the current logo.
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I totally agree! I really want something different, and definitely cleaner.
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I loved the one with 2 gears ( https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/176_sfml%20logo%20example.png without the version number and the long text) and it looks really cool animated in a splash screen. :D
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Am I the only one that thinks the hovering icons (in every logo) are clutterish (and ironic with the "simple" in SFML) and detract from the overall attempt of the logo?
No, you're not the only one. The icons add a certain 'cheap' factor to the logo in my opinion.
I loved the one with 2 gears ( https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/176_sfml%20logo%20example.png without the version number and the long text) and it looks really cool animated in a splash screen. :D
Seconded. That one caught my eye the most.
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+1 for the gears, they look sweet.
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What do gears mean for a simple and fast multimedia library ? To me, gears are often associated to system stuff or settings.
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Gears = "it works"
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Also "basic construct of an engine".
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I'm not a fan of gears, it's too .. generic? Any library could probably have gears in its logo. Personally I'd use something multimedia-ish, like a joytstick, ray of light, or whatever.
Btw if you google image search "sfml logo" you get all the logos in this thread next to each other. :)
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The gears in the gear logo make me think of a solid engine that works.
I agree that it's a bit generic, but I'm not sure that's a bad thing. Most logos I can think of have nothing to do with their products. It's hard to do anything with "multimedia" that isn't already being done, doesn't look tacky, or is extremely obscure for regular users (like FFmpeg's zig-zag).
In fact, I almost like the generic-ness because I feel like it implies I can create many types of programs that SFML is useful for. There's windowing and graphics and networking and audio and threading and controller stuff all in SFML.
I don't necessarily have anything against a multimedia-focused logo, but I think that gears logo is the most solid candidate I've seen in this thread. It would be cool to explore different logo options if someone has the time & talent to do that, but I certainly don't :)
So +1 for the gears from me.
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What do gears mean for a simple and fast multimedia library ? To me, gears are often associated to system stuff or settings.
Engine for games.
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SFML is super comfy wrapper for few C libraries, not an engine.
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As FRex said SFML is not an engine.
I agree that one of the gears logo is the best looking so far, but I also agree that it doesn't hace much to do with SFML. The fact that most logos don't match the brand, doesn't necessarily have be the case for SFML. It often happens because they got not much of a choice and take the next best thing.
I'd like if the logo represented a bit more the SFM...
The real question is then, what should the logo express?
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I've created an imgur album with all the versions I've found here on the forum so one gets a bit a better overview.
SFML Logos (http://imgur.com/a/hOlkk/all)
If I've missed anything, let me know and I'll add it to the album.
Unfortunately there are quite a few logos that aren't online anymore and if those people notice it, could they possibly upload it freshly?
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As FRex said SFML is not an engine.
Personally, I think "engine" is a nebulous term and, depending on the developer and what it is they're making and how they're using libraries (like SFML), they might have different definitions of what an "engine" qualifies as.
But besides, we don't have to encourage the "SFML is an engine" idea. The gears, to me, say SFML is the cogs in your engine, the part that makes the rest of the engine work.
Anyway, as for alternatives (thanks for the album!) I kind of liked this one (http://i.imgur.com/GEv2dYT.png), though I'd tweak it a bit (remove the icons, maybe remove the ellipse, and maybe change the M and L so everything is italicized forwards... and I guess I'd play around with various stylizations of the S (and I guess the other letters, but I like the F)).
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I don't mind if the logo is totally abstract and has nothing to do with SFML. It could be just "SFML" written with a nice font and effects, or a funny mascot, or whatever.
I don't like gears because they mean something, and it doesn't really match what SFML is (in my opinion). And I think that we see too many gears in software stuff :-\
By the way, thanks for the album :)
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I like David's logo. Especially because it doesn't look cheap. I don't want to be something angry (don't know the good English word) but it's true for most most icons posted and the current one. David's looks professional and solid from my view.
BTW, how did you learn that? I want it too! :D
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I like David's logo.
For all those that don't know who has made which logo:
(http://i.imgur.com/kVRhDr9.jpg)
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I liked eigenbom's shapes, so I made these:
(http://i.imgur.com/Wc7ErSo.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/RDoSM9R.png) (http://imgur.com/RDoSM9R)
(http://i.imgur.com/UTYgT7Z.png)
Source: svg file (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B74Xwz4um7akTnE0blJuVFh5QkE/edit)
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I don't think that keeping the 5 icons is a good idea. It makes the logo really heavy, and probably not suitable for smaller sizes. And it doesn't give it a clear identity.
What I want to avoid is what the current logo is: some icons, text, simple shapes and cheap effects thrown together -- no artistic skills involved at all ;)
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some misc google webfonts with animal silouhettes, just to mix it up... :P
(http://bp.io/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/sfmllogo2.png)
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some misc google webfonts with animal silouhettes, just to mix it up... :P
(http://bp.io/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/sfmllogo2.png)
YES! 8)
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Pelican for sure.
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...with animal silouhettes
Makes totally sense... ;D
Anyways here's another proposal from a fellow IRC-ler without forum account:
(http://i.imgur.com/h6VoM7Z.png)
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This is a quick test I've created for a concept I had in my mind. If you like it, I can clean it up.
(http://vittorioromeo.info/Misc/SFMLtest1-02.png)
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I like the idea of searching new fonts and trying new concepts (animal silouhettes).
The logo of the IRC guy is very clean, but it looks like a sport brand.
The last one is interesting too.
It's great to see new ideas coming up :)
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Something simpler this time:
(http://i.imgur.com/9E86vo5.png)
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I really like the IRC-user one =)
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I'm digging the irc one (nice font, black on shocking blue is cool, very clean), but personally I'd take out the... whatever that thing is around the logo that looks like a Cylon raider (https://www.google.com/search?q=cylon+raider&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&authuser=0&ei=s1UEUZGaJ4HViwLs5YH4Bg&biw=1440&bih=718&sei=0VUEUc7wGuTwigKI5IDICg). Andy maybe the 2. Other than that I really like it.
I'm also liking SuperV1234's. Very different direction, but I like it.
krzat, I think those are much better than the earlier ones with lots of the icons!
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Stole some ideas and played with them :) Colors could be played with more. If I get bored again today I'll play around with some more ideas.
Needed more raptors :P:
(http://i.imgur.com/4FlUlwe.png)
I played with SuperV1234's idea:
(http://i.imgur.com/nCTfcvF.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/LFk0VJm.png)
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ok, this is my last logo .. the pentagon represents the 5 different modules of sfml. the font is droid sans. i'm getting way too distracted by this, so I'm outta here. good luck with the logo everyone! :)
(http://bp.io/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/sfmllogo3.png)
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(http://i.imgur.com/h6VoM7Z.png)
I vote for this.
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(http://i.imgur.com/h6VoM7Z.png)
I vote for this.
I donno. I mean it isn't bad, but it reminds me a lot of SDL's logo, but the crescent thing wraps around the words more.
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I donno. I mean it isn't bad, but it reminds me a lot of SDL's logo, but the crescent thing wraps around the words more.
Well a woosh is a woosh... ;D
Anyways 'the guy from IRC' said, he'll make a different one on the weekend.
Here's again the link to the album if someone has missed it: http://imgur.com/a/hOlkk/all
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I don't know. Maybe I am the only one around, but I really like current SFML logo! And I don't think it's necessary to get a new logo, just because a new version is released.
But I really like the idea of a mascot. I think SFML should have one. Personally I like the raptor a lot. I'd suggest a funny, comic style one. But again that's just my preference :)
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Hihi
just clean and simple!
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Started off with the idea of laying out SFML on a keyboard, plus the warm fuzzy feeling I got when I found SFML the first time. Just my two cents :)
(http://i.imgur.com/50j7vIw.png)
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Just fooling around a bit. The text that makes everything up is from the source of SFML.
(http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq262/esursa/SFML-TEXT.png)
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Hihi
just clean and simple!
It's a joke, right? (http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/08/23/microsoft-unveils-first-new-logo-in-25-years/)
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Hihi
just clean and simple!
And a guaranteed lawsuit by Microsoft (http://www.microsoft.com/de-de/default.aspx)...
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Stop crying :)
It was a little joke. But Logos should be realy clean and simple or not?
Just play a bit ... rearrange a bit ... the squares standing for the components
(http://www.freeimagehosting.net/newuploads/ifpnr.png) (http://www.freeimagehosting.net)
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Just play a bit ... rearrange a bit ... the squares standing for the components
Would be nice if you could make the image a bit bigger, so we get to see how it looks like in a larger context.
IMHO the font isn't so fitting and the colors of the squares are a bit boring and it's hard to actually recognize that those should be four separate components.
> imgur album (http://imgur.com/a/hOlkk/all)
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I was rather bored, and I have squircle shaped plates in my apartment.
(http://i.imgur.com/taKOpvx.png)
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(http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/12102780/img/12102780.bmp)
Mixing it up.
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Hello everyone, I'm IRC Guy, and I made the sports looking clean blue logo. Semi-professional freelance web designer AKA "Silly" in IRC.
Not a fan of the "Swoosh", or "Cylon Raider" as someone called it, but it seemed to be a recurring theme so I put it in. Was just a 15 minute logo after exploiter showed me this thread, so no big deal. The Swoosh an old and over established logo trend (http://www.thestreet.com/story/986150/1/swoosh-there-it-is-in-fact-swooshlike-logos-are-everywhere.html) that only a handful of brands on Earth can (or should) get away with. I would have personally preferred to keep it out, and for my next version I will do so.
The main thing that comes to mind when I look at the logo we have now is "Why is it so complicated?"
For a library that claims to be simple and fast, we sure aren't conveying that message very clearly. For the release of SFML 2.0, I feel we should move to something cleaner and more aesthetic to reflect the new features of the update. (Would be neat-o to get some more detailed info from Laurent about what he'd like to see if possible.)
Anywho, I promised I'd make a better one than I did before, and I suppose now I'll have to deliver. See you fellows soon.
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A little more screwing around!
(http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq262/esursa/sfml-whimsy.png)
I just noticed that the SFML + clover should be shunted to the left a bit. I'll have to do that sometime in the near future.
"Multimedia" is just too damn long. I'm not sure I'm a fan of spelling it out, anyway, but I thought I'd see what it looked like.
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(http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq262/esursa/sfml-whimsy.png)
Font looks creepy ;D
I like the idea of Media instead of Multimedia ;)
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I'd like to see some people experiment with a lowercase "sfml". Also, I'd love to see some experiments with clean, simple fonts (I think font choice can make a huge difference). I'd experiment with these myself but I've got homework to do, so I thought I'd throw these ideas out it inspires anyone in the mean time.
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My minimalistic attempt:
(http://i.imgur.com/13zaU0H.png)
At a small resolution, the "simple & fast multimedia library" label could be removed.
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Well, it's always difficult to create a new logo but there is a greate rule that always works for those kind of things : "Less is more". The best idea is usually the simplest one, so I have just give it a try in order to give new materials to work with.
(http://i.imgur.com/tSKrA3f.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/8Hw7uTZ.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/yOubhkR.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/e06w9Av.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/WGBmPms.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/aJkSJlW.png)
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Something simpler this time:
(http://i.imgur.com/hUa3BI2.png)
For what it's worth, I rather like this one, most of all I've seen on this thread. I guess it might be a little used idea (much like the gears Laurent doesn't want), and possibly too game focused.
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Here's my first try:
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/310_SFML_Logo_300dpi.png)
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/312_SFML_Logo.png)
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/311_SFML_Logo_BG.png)
SVG: https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/file/171
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(http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/2083/sfmllogov1blue.png)
(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/746/sfmllogov1green.png)
(http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/6329/sfmllogov2blue.png)
(http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/4023/sfmllogov2green.png)
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Seen some nice ideas, might as well throw one into the hat...
Some general rules of thumb for logo design
- Simple : The simpler, the better... Keep colors and logo-elements to a minimum
- Memorable : Should be distinctive and easily recognizable
- Appropriate : Conveys some idea or feeling that relates to the desired "brand identity"
- Versatile : Maintains the "brand image" without being too detailed, allowing for subtle tweaking in the future or logo-variants
Here's an quick mock-up
(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/5863/sfmllogobase.png)
Again in various sizes
(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/6838/sfmllogoscaled.png)
And a few variants
(http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/9175/sfmllogovariants.png)
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@gwood: I love those!
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Thank you kindly, Cornstalks. I used to do some design work before I got laid off.
Laurent said that a simple font-based design would be fine, so I went through my ridiculously large font-library for something to use as a base.
SFML is a wrapper... So the text is "wrapped" in an outline. And since it is obviously computer-related, the lettering has a "digital" look to it. Also, I like the blocky appearance because the SFML modules are foundational building-blocks for crafting some sweet software.
Different colors would likely work, but I made it with a calming blue-pastel tone that I picked out of the website's header.
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It looks really good :)
Is the font free to use?
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I can't really claim much proficiency in the field, but my girlfriend can, being the one responsible for the marketing division of a company making webpages. We discussed this topic, being so close to what she does for a living, and I decided I'd give my 2 cents(this is the expression, right?) on the topic.
Fistly, though, a few general comments that come to my mind:
- Simpler!
- Less crazy colors!
- No outlines!
A good logo should still be very much recognisable when scaled down to 1 cm^2 and printed on paper in black and white.
(http://i.imgur.com/e06w9Av.png)
This. This is the best I've seen in the thread. Some of the others in Bigz's post are also good, but this one is the best.
Needed more raptors :P:
(http://i.imgur.com/4FlUlwe.png)
Or this. This one is good, the raptor is stretching some of my comments at the top, but the SFML part is excellent.
(http://bp.io/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/sfmllogo3.png)
This one's okay.
(http://i.imgur.com/koZWG.png)
Okay. The green circle is off and the outline on number 2 is ugly.
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/177_logo.png)
The SFML middle part is okay, the L looks weird though. Too much unnecessary clutter at the top and bottom.
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/176_sfml%20logo%20example.png)
A much improved variation of the previous one, the L is still weird.
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Thanks for the professional feedback :)
This. This is the best I've seen in the thread. Some of the others in Bigz's post are also good, but this one is the best.
I don't want the version number in the logo, so this one would end up being just "SFML" written in grey (gray?). That would be a little too simple.
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It looks really good :)
Is the font free to use?
The base font is called "Tiny Box" and the author's website is non-existent at the moment, but he/she uploaded it to a dozen or so free-font repositories, so I'd guess that it is.
But just to be sure, I'll try to contact the author to double-check.
*Update*
After checking upwards of 13 font-repositories, the license is always labeled "Freeware" or "Unknown", so it appears to be free to use so far.
The author's website (apparently a blog) is completely dead, but the email appears to still be active. I'm currently waiting for a response so that I can just be sure about the license.
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Here's an quick mock-up
(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/5863/sfmllogobase.png)
Hmm I like this one as well and I especially like that you created them with some kind of meaning and didn't just put some colored letters there and called it a logo. :)
As always, here's the album (http://imgur.com/a/hOlkk/all) featuring about every single logo from this thread.
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Made some subtle changes to my previous design while recreating it from scratch in my vector-editor of choice.
The largest change is that the individual letters are all the same dimensions in terms of their bounding-boxes, reinforcing the "building block" idea. This should also make logo variants that feature the letters in different configurations seem more natural.
Logo Horizontal orientation...
(http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/15/sfmllogo.png)
Logo in Vertical orientation...
(http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/310/sfmllogovert.png)
Other configurations could be used for various purposes if desired, I suppose.
*Edit*
Another alternate configuration
(http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/1420/sfmllogoblock.png)
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(http://www.picamatic.com/show/2011/06/07/12/12/7609887_bigthumb.png)
Now that is awesome! Seems like a good logo for 2.0 in my opinion :)
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Here's an quick mock-up
(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/5863/sfmllogobase.png)
I really like this one, it looks really clean and professional, Remove the shading (so it's only 2 colors) and it's perfected. If you did, that logo would look good on anything (the website, printed papers, etc), also without shading it would be really easy to print on stuff like dvd-cases/memorysticks and whatnot, and it would look so much better.
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Here's an quick mock-up
(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/5863/sfmllogobase.png)
I really like this one, it looks really clean and professional, Remove the shading (so it's only 2 colors) and it's perfected. If you did, that logo would look good on anything (the website, printed papers, etc), also without shading it would be really easy to print on stuff like dvd-cases/memorysticks and whatnot, and it would look so much better.
That's the original version, below is the revised version:
(http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/15/sfmllogo.png)
I noticed that as well and removed the inner shading when during my revisions. The inner drop-shadow for the letters themselves is very subtle, so it will disappear naturally at lower resolutions and not be noticeable.
Here is an extreme example of a low-rez variant for use as a website favicon (sized 16x16)
(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4713/sfmllogoblock16x16.png)
See Reply #251 in this thread for more examples...
*Edit*
I think I like this favicon better: (http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/5734/sfmllogos16x16.png)
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(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4713/sfmllogoblock16x16.png)
Seems like the F has been misplaced.
As always: imgur album (http://imgur.com/a/hOlkk/all)
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(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4713/sfmllogoblock16x16.png)
See Reply #251 in this thread for more examples...
*Edit*
I think I like this favicon better: (http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/5734/sfmllogos16x16.png)
The big S looks good. I hacked a quick tiny 16x16 image:
(http://imageshack.us/a/img824/7307/sfml16.png)
And a quick 32x32 (It would be nice to have a favicon in a few resolutions, so people with high DPI screens can get a higher res logo):
(http://imageshack.us/a/img14/2760/sfml32.png) (note: these seriously were quickly hacked together, and spending some more time on it would actually help it to look proper)
I think a custom made low-res SFML looks good (like the 16x16 one here). If the low-res version aren't custom made than you get weird blurring/resampling when downsizing.
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I can make optimized versions of various custom sizes and configurations if Laurent and the community decide to go with the design.
As for the favicon... Low-res can be tricky, but it is more than doable. Next time I'll recreate it from scratch rather than merely resize it.
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very minimal like the logos on http://suckless.org/
(http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/31/sfmln.png)
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/4870/sfml.png)
do you like the raw logo?
we could add color and/or outline like on the previous
what do you think?
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we could add color and/or outline like on the previous
what do you think?
As is, the logo is not recognizable. If you know that it should represent you'll be able to see it, but otherwise it looks more like some animals or similar...
Maybe some spaces and coloring could clear up things, but personally I don't like it that much.
> Album (http://imgur.com/a/hOlkk/all)
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I thought it was some kind of dungeon map. ^^
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do you like the raw logo?
we could add color and/or outline like on the previous
what do you think?
I think that without differentiating what each letter is, it looks like a swastika (http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac334/jakehurley234/swastika.jpg):
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It's definitely interesting. Might be a viable idea if tweaked a bit.
Could you make a color rendition?
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I tried something, maybe to odd, but I like it in a way ;)
I also like David's and gwood's one, well done :)
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8088302/SFML.png)
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had 10 spare minutes, so made this :P
(http://i.imgur.com/DmY39xH.jpg)
without bg:
(http://i.imgur.com/7As6GUw.png)
It is just a concept but if it is liked I will work on it.
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had 10 spare minutes, so made this :P
Sorry the photos are only visible to you... :-\
We get a 403 Error when trying to access them. Maybe you could upload it to imgur.com or some other image site...
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Ugh... I hate dropbox some times it works some times not.
Reuploaded and checked them in a different browser and they work.
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A good animal symbole would be the pelegrin falcon : the fastest animal in the world. And it's a very simple animal... ok but still very fast, like your library ;)
I liked the one with the wierd L and the number 2, but it's not re-usable.
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A good animal symbole would be the pelegrin falcon : the fastest animal in the world. And it's a very simple animal... ok but still very fast, like your library ;)
I liked the one with the wierd L and the number 2, but it's not re-usable.
I followed up on this idea and came with these results:
Normalsized:
(http://i.imgur.com/lPP8J67.png)
Small:
(to be used for promotional purposes, like "powered by SFML" tiny pic in the bottomright of project websites or something)
(http://i.imgur.com/IDBTIio.png)
Favicon:
(http://i.imgur.com/An0GByt.png) SFML - Simple and fast multimedia library
Please tell me if this is something you guys think I should continue working on. It is done from scratch by me in photoshop, I made the bird with vectors(using pictures from google images as references) and have those saved.
I understand that you probably need to change the blue background on the website, although I think that might be worth it.
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Well, it's always difficult to create a new logo but there is a greate rule that always works for those kind of things : "Less is more". The best idea is usually the simplest one, so I have just give it a try in order to give new materials to work with.
...
(http://i.imgur.com/WGBmPms.png)
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I'm a bit late to the party, but I absolutely LOVE this one. It's simple, the font looks nice, there isn't so many colours that it's distracting, but there also isn't so few colours that it's boring. I like the idea of the pentagon representing the 5 modules, and overall this works really well.
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A good animal symbole would be the pelegrin falcon : the fastest animal in the world. And it's a very simple animal... ok but still very fast, like your library ;)
I liked the one with the wierd L and the number 2, but it's not re-usable.
I followed up on this idea and came with these results
I would imagine some speed effects on the logo and a falcon like this one, but inverted horizontaly and on the right of the logo :
(http://us.cdn3.123rf.com/168nwm/dipressionist/dipressionist0809/dipressionist080900027/3595633-survolez-faucon-silhouette.jpg)
But yours is already great btw.
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So decided to have a crack at this. Made in Paint.net using the 'libre' font Orbitron (SIL Open Font) http://www.fontsquirrel.com/fonts/Orbitron (http://www.fontsquirrel.com/fonts/Orbitron)
I tried to keep with the original design but make it more minimal and clean.
Version 1:
(http://i.imgur.com/uZ2f4We.png)
Version 2:
(http://i.imgur.com/IpGg2Hq.png)
Version 3:
(http://i.imgur.com/oorJ9JH.png)
Version 3 Wide:
(http://i.imgur.com/xYvAEML.png)
Version 3 Wide 2:
(http://i.imgur.com/Pl9tteS.png)
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I've definitely seen enough logos with components in them. ;) I don't know, but I can't stand them (I've never liked the current logo either).
(http://i.imgur.com/WGBmPms.png])
I really like that one. It's simple, even has a meaning (I'm sure that no one will find it out, but you have something to tell if you get asked ;)), easily recognizable etc.
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Small:
(to be used for promotional purposes, like "powered by SFML" tiny pic in the bottomright of project websites or something)
(http://i.imgur.com/IDBTIio.png)
Please tell me if this is something you guys think I should continue working on. It is done from scratch by me in photoshop, I made the bird with vectors(using pictures from google images as references) and have those saved.
Personally I've no idea what's with those animals and find it quite ridiculous (in a bad way).
But I like the font and style anyways. ;D
Though I think it's again not simple enough.
Album: http://imgur.com/a/hOlkk/all
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(http://i.imgur.com/WGBmPms.png])
I really like that one. It's simple, even has a meaning (I'm sure that no one will find it out, but you have something to tell if you get asked ;)), easily recognizable etc.
Why not. Could you try with a white or blue outline on the background shape? It would fit the website better -- the banner is already green.
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I'm not too sure if it's already been discussed, but has there been any ideas of an animated Logo? Particularly one for a game intro. Static images are so boring.
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I'm not too sure if it's already been discussed, but has there been any ideas of an animated Logo? Particularly one for a game intro.
Animated images first need static images. Thus getting the design done is (was? ;D) now the priority.
After we have a new logo, it should be fairly simple for anyone to make an animation, but I don't think there will an official animation and certainly not for the main logo itself, unless you can show me an animated logo on normal paper. ;D
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animated logo on normal paper. ;D
I'm unsure of what this "normal paper" is that you speak of, but once the official logo is set, I'm sure I can throw some things together in flash or something.
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I'm unsure of what this "normal paper" is that you speak of, but once the official logo is set, I'm sure I can throw some things together in flash or something.
Well I wasn't sure if you wanted a animated logo as the one to use everywhere, thus I asked humorously to provide an animated logo on paper and to rule out ePaper, I added 'normale'. ;D
If you still don't get it, nvm. ::)
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Why not. Could you try with a white or blue outline on the background shape? It would fit the website better -- the banner is already green.
I think the original author Bigz (http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=827) should do it, as it's his idea (post #238 (http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?topic=4960.msg73799#msg73799)). Maybe you should send him a PM if he doesn't check this thread regularly.
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I actually liked the raptor one because it's so random..
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I think the pentagon could work really well. For comparison, here's the pentagon-based logo I proposed a number of pages back (http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?topic=4960.msg71784#msg71784 (http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?topic=4960.msg71784#msg71784))..
(http://bp.io/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/sfmllogo3.png)
And Bigz:
(http://i.imgur.com/WGBmPms.png])
I think having a rotating pentagon as an animated version is a great idea. I can imagine my own SFML game moonman (http://moonman.io) booting up showing the rotating pentagon. Each binding of SFML could use a different colour too, e.g., rbSFML could be red, pySFML could be a stripey-snake pattern, etc..
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Personally, I don't like the pentagon. It is too general and has no real connection to SFML. Also, there are thousands of logos like that, a good logo should be unique in a way. And it should also be recognizable without the text.
Recently, I have spent some thoughts about a logo that could be associated with SFML's philosophy "simple and fast", and I came across an object that clearly fulfills these properties: An arrow. I experimented a little bit with a logo that incorporates an arrow. I'm not a great artist, but tell me whether you like the general idea. The following pictures are scaled to half size, in order to be displayed without scrolling.
Raw:
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/316_sfml0.png)
Contour and shadows:
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/317_sfml1.png)
Shiny:
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/318_sfml2.png)
Only arrow:
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/319_sfml-arrow1.png)
Arrow with more shadows:
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/320_sfml-arrow2.png)
3D model of the arrow:
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/321_sfml-3d.jpg)
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I dont dislike the arrow idea and concept, but looking at that one i dont feel its the right one.. : )
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The arrow is a neat idea, I like the idea of one 'simple' element to go along with the text in the logo.
Here is another more simple logo I made using the same font as before:
(http://i.imgur.com/ZFlZB9M.png)
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Maybe rather than an actual arrow, a stylised arrow(such as those used to represent vectors) would be more appropriate, as it can be seen as an arrow, but is also a much more simplistic icon.
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Yes, I know the arrow looks a little bit strange ;)
I made it blue/green to fit the color theme, and thick to have almost square dimensions (which is necessary for 16x16 logos). One possibility would also be to have 2-3 thin arrows that cross each other, but then the logo would again become more complex.
A stylized arrow would also be an option, have you thought of something like here (https://www.google.ch/search?hl=de&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1680&bih=925&q=arrow+logo&oq=arrow+logo&gs_l=img.3..0.2711.3788.0.3980.10.8.0.2.2.0.104.623.7j1.8.0...0.0...1ac.1.7.img.9zYC09jeePE)? I just think it should still somehow be special to be recognized as SFML, even though it can be simple.
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I think the pentagon could work really well. For comparison, here's the pentagon-based logo I proposed a number of pages back (http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?topic=4960.msg71784#msg71784 (http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?topic=4960.msg71784#msg71784))..
(http://bp.io/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/sfmllogo3.png)
And Bigz:
(http://i.imgur.com/WGBmPms.png])
I think having a rotating pentagon as an animated version is a great idea. I can imagine my own SFML game moonman (http://moonman.io) booting up showing the rotating pentagon. Each binding of SFML could use a different colour too, e.g., rbSFML could be red, pySFML could be a stripey-snake pattern, etc..
This is the best logo I have seen since the begining. Very clean, simple and nice looking !
Laurent, what do you think about it ?
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Laurent, what do you think about it ?
It doesn't look bad, but I don't find it awesome. But you're right, it's probably one of the best so far. However I tried to integrate it to the website, and it doesn't fit very well :-\
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If you have an idea on how to change or simplify the arrow, just tell me, then I can try to adapt it. Also don't hesitate to create own variations!
And if you don't like the idea at all, then tell that too ;)
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(http://i.imgur.com/WGBmPms.png])
I really like that one. It's simple, even has a meaning (I'm sure that no one will find it out, but you have something to tell if you get asked ;)), easily recognizable etc.
I agree that so far this one could be the most recognizable, I like the simplicity.
Here's an album of other library/open source project logos, which could perhaps serve as some inspiration. http://imgur.com/a/oz4tV (http://imgur.com/a/oz4tV)
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I don't hate the pentagon, but it seems so... meh. It doesn't really stand out or have any kind of visual intrigue.
I'm going to post a few things. Note that these are meant to spawn ideas. I'm not really in love with what I'm posting.
Trying to get people to think of a different type of pentagon:
(http://i.imgur.com/32zU80b.png)
Alternate:
(http://i.imgur.com/k7BYiGM.png)
Completely changing things up (I'm not too fond of the font) (it's supposed to be the "Standby" power symbol):
(http://i.imgur.com/8FdNExA.png)
I'm not too fond of this one:
(http://i.imgur.com/rrqPmpo.png)
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Just had another idea (combining the two from my last post):
Version 1:
(http://i.imgur.com/ALbjp5U.png)
Rotated:
(http://i.imgur.com/ZULP9jJ.png)
Again, these are just ideas I'm throwing around.
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Nice ideas. What made you choose the standby symbol?
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Not bad. Could you try more combinations, with the pentagon-shutdown icon and the "SFML" text together? And maybe different fonts, colors, etc.
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i was bored so :D
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l46/KurdG/sfmllogo_zps570ecea8.png)
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(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y503/pinko64/sfml1_zps613e113c.png)
???
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Nice ideas. What made you choose the standby symbol?
I chose it for two reasons. One, it is associated by people with "power on" and I think SFML "turns the power on." Two, it's actually tech/computer related (I kept thinking of a lawn company looking at the green pentagon... it's not bad, but I wanted to try and get people to actually think of something computer related). I originally thought of the block one because I was trying to create a distinguishable symbol (the generic round standby symbol is used outside of SFML). I decided to merge the two ideas (the pentagon, representing the 5 parts of SFML, and the power symbol) and that's how I came up with that version.
Here are some different versions (the glowing ones were supposed to emphasize "power on"):
(http://i.imgur.com/qskSC2g.png)
And Laurent, here are a few with the "SFML" by it:
(http://i.imgur.com/8OPAltd.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/vjRezxJ.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/IAMkxpG.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/TM2cI5h.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/Iwq51sv.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/WxbiQuH.png)
Again, just rough sketches. I can provide the SVG file if someone wants to play around with it or try different font combinations. I can also post more font combos myself if anyone would like me to.
Here are a few colored options:
(http://i.imgur.com/LwM9Dtg.png)
Again, I just want to emphasize these are rough sketches.
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It also kind of looks like a tank, seen from above.
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The power on button is really a nice idea :)
I like the middle column more than the right one, the symbol is simpler and doesn't look "interrupted" (in the right symbol, the upper edge is "broken"). I experimented a little:
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/323_sfml-green-sharper.png)
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/324_sfml-blue.png)
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How about sigma to denote sumation as SFML has it all!!!!
(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5733/33872531.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/24/33872531.jpg/)
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How about sigma to denote sumation as SFML has it all!!!!
I guess people would read it as an E by accident... :-\
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How about sigma to denote sumation as SFML has it all!!!!
Well, the irony is that SFML definitely doesn't have it all. It's a fairly minimal library.
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Also, it has a helloJava naming convention (poking FRex ;)). Joking aside:
Good job Nexus! I *love* the following, however I'd suggest to add (more?) font anti-aliasing and check the proportions of the symbol and the text to share same baselines.
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/324_sfml-blue.png)
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My personal preferences:
- green rather than blue
- grey rather than black?
- maybe something more "flat" than those linear gradients, or with only light and dark areas to fake some lighting (similar to the Ubuntu logo (http://ubunnux.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/ubuntu_shiny_logo_large.png) for example)
- I like the roundish look of the logo
- let's find less common fonts; I think Cornstalks is on the right way ;)
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I like the roundish look of the logo
Like the current logo with the swirl?
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Like the current logo with the swirl?
No, what I mean is that I like the rounded angles. It looks softer than right angles.
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- let's find less common fonts; I think Cornstalks is on the right way ;)
If I'm not mistaken by your previous comments in this threads, it seems to me you have a thing for retro-looking, bitmap-like fonts. Is this the direction to go?
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Did you imagine the symbol to be colorized like at the first two logos?
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/326_variation1.png)
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/327_variation2.png)
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/328_variation3.png)
What about the text? To be honest, it looked cleaner with a smooth gradient. Maybe I should still add a weak gradient inside each color, and a hard border between the two grays. I don't know which font you prefer either, could you be more specific? I downloaded a few, does any of them please you?
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/329_fonts.png)
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My vote 3rd one with symbol
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If I'm not mistaken by your previous comments in this threads, it seems to me you have a thing for retro-looking, bitmap-like fonts. Is this the direction to go?
Hmm no. I rather like simple rounded fonts :P
Did you imagine the symbol to be colorized like at the first two logos?
Kind of.
I like the colors of Cornstalks' green logos (with the black outline).
What about the text? To be honest, it looked cleaner with a smooth gradient. Maybe I should still add a weak gradient inside each color, and a hard border between the two grays.
I don't know. I think we should try as many ideas as possible.
I don't know which font you prefer either, could you be more specific? I downloaded a few, does any of them please you?
I'd like the font to be
- simple
- a bit rounded
- not too thin
- sans serif!
So, your second font (which is the one you already chose previously, by the way) would be ok.
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Which first two logos? ;D
The ones in my last post (only the symbols, ignore the text for now). I tried to apply your idea of a hard border between two colors, like the Ubunto logo. Apparently they were so bad you didn't even see them :D
I like the colors of Cornstalks' green logos (with the black outline).
Do you prefer the "normal" green over the rather dark green I used? In my opinion, his green is quite agressive, especially when combined with blue.
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The ones in my last post (only the symbols, ignore the text for now).
I figured that and edited my post just before you answered.
Do you prefer the "normal" green over the rather dark green I used? In my opinion, his green is quite agressive, especially when combined with blue.
Yes I prefer his green. It's almost the same that I use in the new website. In fact I think we can completely drop blue. Green and grey/black would be the new colors.
These are just ideas to help progressing, but don't limit yourself to what I say. The most important is to submit as many variants as possible, to eventually find the right direction :)
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Yes I prefer his green. It's almost the same that I use in the new website. In fact I think we can completely drop blue. Green and grey/black would be the new colors.
What about giving the color codes of the new website's color scheme? Or even a screenshot.
I think a lot of people are influenced by the blue/green design featured on the current website.
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Hm, I still don't see a statement about the "ubuntu-style" symbols themselves, maybe you forgot to send the edit? :-\
Concerning fonts, I'll search for others that meet your requirements. If you have some time (which you probably don't), you could also visit http://www.1001fonts.com and enter "SFML" in the text field, so that you get an idea how the text will look like.
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my second try :D
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l46/KurdG/sfmlround_zpseb23f10d.png)
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What about giving the color codes of the new website's color scheme? Or even a screenshot.
The problem is that the design of the new website is not finalized (I can release it but I'll probably work more on it after the release). So... yes, I should stop talking about the new website ;D
But I can show you, yes. I'll post a screenshot this evening.
Hm, I still don't see a statement about the "ubuntu-style" symbols themselves, maybe you forgot to send the edit?
I edited the wrong part of my post... :-[
Sorry, it's fixed now.
Concerning fonts, I'll search for others that meet your requirements. If you have some time (which you probably don't), you could also visit http://www.1001fonts.com and enter "SFML" in the text field, so that you get an idea how the text will look like.
Yep.
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my second try
No offense, but I don't like your logos ;D
In this thread there are a lot of logos made in 5 minutes, with no work on the font, the concept, the colors, etc. This is exactly what I don't want, since that's what the current logo is.
It's time to stop with this kind of contributions, now we need to focus on more professional things. Either by improving the current good ideas, and working on the colors / font, or provide new ideas but with a true work behind, which means a solid concept or design. Or at least a good idea.
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So far the experiments of Nexus are the ones I like most, however I'd also like to see the same with a brighter/more aggressive green.
Nexus, any chance that you publish the SVG/PSD/Gimp whatever source file so others can play around with it, too?
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Wow, I went to bed and woke up to an awesome discussion going on! I wish I would have left these points:
- The rounded symbol is supposed to be used with more curvy fonts, the hard-angled symbol is supposed to be used with blocky fonts (you guys seem to be doing just fine with this one)
- Try to choose fonts whose thickness complement or match the symbol's thickness (it can always be made thicker/skinner if needed, though!)
- I would suggest playing around with a symbol until you have something you want to try matching with a font, and then browsing a font website (with "SFML") and put the symbol in a little window that you can leave by the side of your browser (so as you scroll, the font shows up by the symbol) (I at least found this a decent way of quickly visualizing what fonts looked best by the symbol)
For those who are interested in playing around with things further, you can download the SVG here (https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0BxWx_dIBnyRoRG8zODRwWjB1MDA) (I work in Inkscape).
Laurent, did you have a version of the symbol you preferred (I mean, the one with the flat top or the one with the angled top (or in other words, which rotation of the symbol))? It would help cull the permutations I'm trying out...
I'll try and make time to post some attempts today, but I make no promises (school...).
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Laurent, did you have a version of the symbol you preferred (I mean, the one with the flat top or the one with the angled top (or in other words, which rotation of the symbol))? It would help cull the permutations I'm trying out...
The same as Nexus (the one with the flat bottom), for the same reasons ;)
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So I had a shot with 'power on' idea, but with simple colours with the free font: http://www.fontsquirrel.com/fonts/titan-one
(http://i.imgur.com/ltBHCLE.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/VkFWJEp.png)
I think it has sort of a 'HTML 5 Logo' feel, thoughts?
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These are larger versions, with a brighter green.
Symbol variant 1:
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/330_sfml-symbol1.png)
Symbol variant 2:
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/331_sfml-symbol2.png)
Symbol variant 3:
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/332_sfml-symbol3.png)
PSD file: Very simple, just two layers with different gradients, and the foreground layer is cut off with a layer mask.
https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/file/174
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Cool stuff people. I've played around with the thickness and smoothness. SVG download link (https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0BxWx_dIBnyRodlhXNjRPSFVSMlE). Sorry for the massive image! If it bugs anyone I can just link to it instead of embed it.
(http://i.imgur.com/GqfXFfN.png)
I haven't played around too much with the size of the gap at the top. The thicker ones should obviously have a larger gap. Anyway, I'm going to focus on colors and fonts now!
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Nexus, I'm really liking variant #3! I'm not sure how much I like the drop shadow, though. I'll try and think of some ideas during my class.
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This is primarily a font test.
1 Thin:
(http://i.imgur.com/mqpnLRg.png)
2 Regular:
(http://i.imgur.com/CW2UxMc.png)
3 Bold:
(http://i.imgur.com/HgaQP0m.png)
Various other fonts:
4:
(http://i.imgur.com/CBCOBrs.png)
5:
(http://i.imgur.com/5ju82sA.png)
6:
(http://i.imgur.com/6T4FltV.png)
7:
(http://i.imgur.com/uiiyIeC.png)
8:
(http://i.imgur.com/o7VkOLY.png)
9:
(http://i.imgur.com/ovKQ16o.png)
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I really like the idea of the logo being styled like this where the image is part of the logo
(http://i.imgur.com/ltBHCLE.png)
As opposed to something like this where the image is kind of off to the side.(http://i.imgur.com/mqpnLRg.png)
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(http://i.imgur.com/VkFWJEp.png)
I think it has sort of a 'HTML 5 Logo' feel, thoughts?
I think it looks pretty good (I'm not sure why the first one has a circle around the S though). My only aversion to logos behind the name is that they can be pretty huge (if you want the text to be large, the logo itself ends up massive (unless, of course, you have a horizontal logo)). But I do generally like it.
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I've played around with the thickness and smoothness
My preference: middle thickness and smoothness (like, 7th row and 12th column).
This is primarily a font test
Anything more "rounded"? ;)
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Alright, these all use 7th row, 12th column, and are some various rounded fonts. I didn't have as much time as I'd have liked to play around with things today, unfortunately. Also, I might be able to custom make/modify a font, if there's one you find that you like but want a little bit different. In addition to custom modifying the glyphs, the font thickness/kerning can be modified too. Customizing fonts might take a bit of my time though so I can't do it for every font.
1:
(http://i.imgur.com/9RbMpQI.png)
2:
(http://i.imgur.com/gAHrg4f.png)
3:
(http://i.imgur.com/5zsXknW.png)
4:
(http://i.imgur.com/royQyPe.png)
5:
(http://i.imgur.com/Q9gyflX.png)
6:
(http://i.imgur.com/6GE4So4.png)
7:
(http://i.imgur.com/eXdpHCl.png)
8:
(http://i.imgur.com/SHnFYkV.png)
9:
(http://i.imgur.com/psnhqLr.png)
10:
(http://i.imgur.com/lP2avT1.png)
Also, here are some various version of 7th row, 12th column (the gap size is different in each):
(http://i.imgur.com/hhoM5Jv.png)
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Nice :)
The fonts all look good, I'd like to have feedback from others.
I think you can also put the power-on icon on the left, make it bigger and colorize it as we discussed earlier. We'll also need to find color(s) for "SFML".
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I like 3, 4, and 10 the best. And I agree with Laurent, moving the power icon to the left may be better.
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I like the bold ones more than the thin ones. So, IMHO, 5,6,7,8,9 don't look as good (they either are too long horizontally or look weird with the bold symbol near them). The symbol top and bottom should be the same as the fonts'
That said, I like 2,4 and 10.
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I like variant 4 the most. Symbol and font have the same style (round and thickness). Otherwise, also 3 is okay. And 7 would be quite nice if it used a normal S (not such an integral symbol).
Concerning font color, a black/gray combination should be neutral and clean, it also looks good next to the green symbol.
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Concerning font color, a black/gray combination should be neutral and clean, it also looks good next to the green symbol.
+1
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I think that the SFML is a modern library and should really use a futurist font for its logo, like in the 5°, 6° or 7° iteration. Laurent, could we see a preview of the website ? That may help a lot to choose the color and the effects. :)
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Laurent, could we see a preview of the website ?
Sure. Sorry I forgot yesterday.
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Another submission. It is supposed to look a bit like old one.
(http://i.imgur.com/rOq7KPh.png)
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I like it krzat, but the ellipse seems to belong to the past now ! :D
I tried to colorize/texture one of the previous Cornstalk logo, with gold effect for the text and green for the logo.
That's not perfect but it could give some ideas to people :
1° :
(http://uppix.net/8/4/9/7070c987cb4728f8698b10c357dd8.png)
2° :
(http://uppix.net/b/b/f/b0c9594785ed61420f53eea12d242.png)
3° :
(http://uppix.net/8/a/2/f6a2ae552295767646422f6a7ef6f.png)
4° :
(http://uppix.net/6/a/c/c0f85070b81b746ab51ca13ef9fc2.png)
5° :
(http://uppix.net/f/8/8/6d0ecd8de1c47418d0feb968f64a7.png)
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Here is a preview of the website. Don't forget that it is not finished (the style is still pretty neutral and basic), and that colors and layout can still change. It will be released like that because it is usable, but I'll work on it again after the release.
The empty space on the left side of the menu bar is where the logo should be.
(http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4960.0;attach=588;image)
[attachment deleted by admin]
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Looks clean and simple, I like it! :)
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Looks clean and simple, I like it!
This is exactly what I wanted it to be to start with, so I'm glad it shows.
Now let's focus on the logo again, I don't want this thread to become the "let's talk about the new website" thread ;)
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I have adapted my previous try to make it match with the new website colors :
(http://uppix.net/8/1/6/3f3bee32d033e5ab574fa71fe9370t.jpg) (http://uppix.net/8/1/6/3f3bee32d033e5ab574fa71fe9370.png)
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For these, I played with a symbol that has rounded end points, like this:
(http://i.imgur.com/Wh1Sb6x.png)
I focused on the font from #4, as people seemed to generally like it. I can always try more fonts and more color combinations, but here's a few ideas (I tried to keep thinks clean, simple (http://www.awwwards.com/10-web-design-trends-for-2013.html#c2), flat (http://www.awwwards.com/10-web-design-trends-for-2013.html#c7), and minimal):
1:
(http://i.imgur.com/IhQ73Nn.png)
2:
(http://i.imgur.com/64aQ18P.png)
3:
(http://i.imgur.com/A0fQb2M.png)
4:
(http://i.imgur.com/gk6QXFm.png)
5:
(http://i.imgur.com/DShPKnS.png)
6:
(http://i.imgur.com/je38kGG.png)
7:
(http://i.imgur.com/u3djkWj.png)
8:
(http://i.imgur.com/myDQUcd.png)
9:
(http://i.imgur.com/0FmNX6r.png)
10:
(http://i.imgur.com/cNqevmr.png)
11:
(http://i.imgur.com/JbDF46g.png)
Note that kerning in the font and thickness in the symbol can always be fine tuned.
I'd love some feedback!
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I like 5 and 6.
Have you tried to keep the green background, and make:
- the logo green with a gray outline
- "SFML" gray
?
There's a margin on top of the menu bar, the initial idea was to make the logo slightly bigger than the bar and overlap this margin, so that it doesn't look too flat. You can also try variants with this idea.
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Have you tried to keep the green background, and make:
- the logo green with a gray outline
- "SFML" gray
Nope, I hadn't tried that. Here's some combinations:
1:
(http://i.imgur.com/mykP7WD.png)
2:
(http://i.imgur.com/nOlDM2S.png)
3:
(http://i.imgur.com/ULm8Bdj.png)
4:
(http://i.imgur.com/Jj0BvEw.png)
5:
(http://i.imgur.com/QsWFz1D.png)
6:
(http://i.imgur.com/BukWAyD.png)
7:
(http://i.imgur.com/aAQaMlr.png)
8:
(http://i.imgur.com/BrViVkE.png)
There's a margin on top of the menu bar, the initial idea was to make the logo slightly bigger than the bar and overlap this margin, so that it doesn't look too flat. You can also try variants with this idea.
Ah, I didn't see that margin. Here are some experiments:
9:
(http://i.imgur.com/m82DCvR.png)
10:
(http://i.imgur.com/EFzbaCF.png)
11:
(http://i.imgur.com/niI7fW0.png)
12:
(http://i.imgur.com/fm5lJEZ.png)
13:
(http://i.imgur.com/8cDamLU.png)
14:
(http://i.imgur.com/dVzIqpa.png)
15:
(http://i.imgur.com/yJCGjFg.png)
16:
(http://i.imgur.com/TRHLKcZ.png)
17:
(http://i.imgur.com/ZEpLOX0.png)
18:
(http://i.imgur.com/NecSKE2.png)
19:
(http://i.imgur.com/CTI1xjq.png)
20:
(http://i.imgur.com/UGgnOsq.png)
21:
(http://i.imgur.com/FXBbwWK.png)
22:
(http://i.imgur.com/5OyIvvC.png)
23:
(http://i.imgur.com/sH2md5A.png)
24:
(http://i.imgur.com/VZDT2gN.png)
25:
(http://i.imgur.com/2NU8IuB.png)
26:
(http://i.imgur.com/4N6Dzut.png)
27:
(http://i.imgur.com/fnqxHKp.png)
28:
(http://i.imgur.com/pAQuB1E.png)
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That's a lot :D
But I think we should first find a logo that looks good alone, and then find how to integrate it to the website.
You could try variants with the "lighting" effect shown here:
http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?topic=4960.msg76873#msg76873
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I really like krzat's contribution. I suppose I've associated SFML with an ellipse for a too long time :)
With new colorscheme, lighting and drop shadow:
(http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4960.0;attach=590;image)
Here some integration tests based on his logo:
(http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4960.0;attach=592;image)
With Cornstalk's font:
(http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4960.0;attach=594;image)
I like the idea of the acronym "SFML" being a part of the logo itself, I think the logo will be more identifiable that way.
While I also like the concept of a pentagon/power button, a multimedia library is something too much abstract to be easily represented by just a pictograph, and it's hard to have a distinctive visual representation.
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Maybe insert the power button inside the white circle?
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That's a lot :D
:P
But I think we should first find a logo that looks good alone, and then find how to integrate it to the website.
That's a good idea.
You could try variants with the "lighting" effect shown here:
http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?topic=4960.msg76873#msg76873
Cool, I'll experiment with some of the lighting ideas and other things. I've got some final projects I need to start working on, so it might take me a few days to get around to doing it. If other people want to experiment with the power symbol, you're all more than welcome to! The font I've been using is Geometry Soft Pro (http://www.fontspace.com/cheapprofonts/geometry-soft-pro) and the SVG for the rounded and non-rounded symbol can be found here (https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0BxWx_dIBnyRoZTBoekc4bG5lMEk) (in addition to the other SVGs I've linked to in the past), but don't be afraid to go in a totally different direction than I've been going in.
@Haze: I think that's pretty good looking! I too think it's a good idea to incorporate "SFML" into the logo itself if it can be done well (for ease of recognition), but I've always struggled in finding ways to do that. There's a part of me that likes the elipse, and there's another part of me that wants to rip out the association people have with SFML and elipses. But I generally like it and am looking forward to what other things people come up with.
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You can also use my PSD from a few posts ago, if it helps you. I'm not experienced in vector graphics, so it has a fixed (although high) resolution. Today, I unfortunately don't have the time to experiment, maybe in the weekend...
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I really like krzat's contribution. I suppose I've associated SFML with an ellipse for a too long time
With new colorscheme, lighting and drop shadow:
It looks good too. There's just one thing I don't like: the white circle, which doesn't fit very well, and can make people believe that the name is OSFML :P
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Maybe insert the power button inside the white circle?
There's just one thing I don't like: the white circle, which doesn't fit very well, and can make people believe that the name is OSFML :P
Indeed, you're right. I've curved a power button in the white circle and it looks better IMO.
With font #1:
(http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4960.0;attach=596;image)
With font #2:
(http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4960.0;attach=598;image)
Integration tests:
(http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4960.0;attach=600;image)
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That looks good :)
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I'm trying to think of a way to use it as a loading screen as well (sorry for dropping in from nowhere)
Would be pretty nice to have a gradient flashing behind the power button..... yes I'll actually try that :P
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This last idea is really good, but I think it needs some more space between the power button and SFML, 'cause it looks like OSML ;)
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This last idea is really good, but I think it needs some more space between the power button and SFML, 'cause it looks like OSML ;)
It was supposed to look like a planet :/
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I made a color gradient that spans both symbol and text. I also took a lowercase text, and changed the colors to match the website. Please be specific about what you like or not, so we can go into a certain direction :)
Variation 1: Normal
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/338_variation5.png)
Variation 2: Contour
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/339_variation6.png)
Variation 3: Glow
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/340_variation7.png)
Variation 4: Glow + contour
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/341_variation8.png)
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What I like:
- the color effect
What I don't like:
- glow
- the font (this one is a little too rounded, it reminds me Comic sans MS ;D)
I don't know if SFML should be lower case or upper case. So far, upper case looks better to me.
I don't like the glow effect but I'm not against a drop shadow, the examples of Haze look clean, especially the integration to the website.
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I would choose the logo of Haze. It's not changed much, but still got a nice new version. :D
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Thanks for the positive feedback. Do you have any other improvements to suggest?
- Font #1 or font #2 (rounded)?
- Should the ellipse be visible above the menu or cropped?
- Is there enough padding between the text and the inner bounds of the ellipse? (I think it's ok with font #1, but with font #2 the text is too close to the power button, cf. matkod's comment).
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What I don't like:
- glow
- the font (this one is a little too rounded, it reminds me Comic sans MS ;D)
But comic sans is the best font in the world! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBibXwwLBts) ;D
Anyway, I'm gonna play with some effects over the next couple days... For anyone who would like to play around with the font and round and unrounded power symbol I've been using and missed my last post (http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?topic=4960.msg77120#msg77120), the font is Geometry Soft Pro (http://www.fontspace.com/cheapprofonts/geometry-soft-pro) and the SVG for the rounded and non-rounded symbol can be found here (https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0BxWx_dIBnyRoZTBoekc4bG5lMEk) (and you can find various other versions of this in the thread).
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Thanks, Cornstalks. I used his font and a shadow, I also experimented with a brighter gray:
Variation 1: Dark gray
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/342_variation1.png)
Variation 2: Dark gray, contour
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/343_variation2.png)
Variation 3: Dark gray, shadow
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/344_variation3.png)
Variation 4: Light gray, shadow
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/345_variation4.png)
Variation 5: Light gray, contour + shadow
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/346_variation5.png)
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- Font #1 or font #2 (rounded)?
Font #2.
- Should the ellipse be visible above the menu or cropped?
Visible above the menu.
- Is there enough padding between the text and the inner bounds of the ellipse? (I think it's ok with font #1, but with font #2 the text is too close to the power button, cf. matkod's comment).
Yes, you could try with more padding.
For the website I'd also make the whole logo bigger. Don't hesitate to take as much space as you can.
Thanks, Cornstalks. I used his font and a shadow, I also experimented with a brighter gray:
I like them, especially the second one (dark gray, with contour).
The shadow should probably be lighter, it's too heavy.
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Bigger and more padding, so be it.
The margin above the menu is 36px.
With dropshadow #1 (light):
(http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4960.0;attach=605;image)
With dropshadow #2 (darker):
(http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4960.0;attach=607;image)
Full size with gradient:
(http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4960.0;attach=609;image)
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Laurent, you better choose Haze' logo. It's awesome.
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I like them, especially the second one (dark gray, with contour).
The shadow should probably be lighter, it's too heavy.
I weakened the shadow and tried different contour thicknesses:
Variation 3: Strong shadow (shown before)
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/344_variation3.png)
Variation 6: Light shadow
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/347_variation6.png)
Variation 7: Light shadow, thin contour
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/348_variation7.png)
Variation 8: Light shadow, medium contour
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/349_variation8.png)
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Laurent, you better choose Haze' logo. It's awesome.
Says the guy who only registered for this thread :P
In my opinion, SFML should really get a unique logo. And neither an ellipse nor a round power symbol is something that can be associated directly with SFML. Especially the ellipse is seen in so many other logos from all possible fields. How would you make a favicon or square logo out of that? Only the round power symbol? That is not distinguishable from any shutdown button ;)
In contrast, the pentagon-power conveys an interesting background, and people have not seen it a million times before. You can also recognize the library only by the logo itself, without the text.
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My preferred is variation 7. How does it look on the website? ;)
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Don't hesitate to request other combinations!
Same proportions:(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/350_sfml-website1.png)
Logo exceeds bar:(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/351_sfml-website2.png)
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Nice.
Let's try:
- big logo (exceeds bar)
- smaller "SFML", light gray variant
If "SFML" is smaller, maybe we can find space below to write "simple & fast multimedia library"? What do you think?
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It's really close, but it might be readable...
Black small text
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/352_sfml-website1.png)
Black small text, shadow
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/353_sfml-website2.png)
White small text
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/354_sfml-website3.png)
White small text, shadow
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/355_sfml-website4.png)
I'm choosing a few fonts, meanwhile you can tell me if there are other things to do :)
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The "Black small text" looks really good.
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the font is Geometry Soft Pro (http://www.fontspace.com/cheapprofonts/geometry-soft-pro)
I just saw the license, which makes the font unusable for SFML. Next time, please read it :P
You may install and use an unlimited number of copies of the font within the same household, company, school or institution. You may NOT copy or distribute the font outside of the licensed household, company, school or institution. Please ask external contacts who want to use the font to get their own license at www.CheapProFonts.com.
You may embed the font in electronic documents, but you may NOT include the font in a software product - this requires a special license.
Looks like the choice of a good font begins anew ::)
I attach a PDF with a few fonts. If you don't like them, please search one on 1001fonts.com or somewhere else, I really don't know what else to propose. Actually, I attach 2 PDFs, since the forum limits the file size.
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Laurent, you better choose Haze' logo. It's awesome.
Thank you, but it's hardly mine, krzat did most of the job!
In my opinion, SFML should really get a unique logo. And neither an ellipse nor a round power symbol is something that can be associated directly with SFML.
I know, and you raised some valid concerns, but a multimedia library is something very abstract. I don't think you can come with a logo which has a distinctive visual representation and is simple / minimalist in the same time, for something this abstract.
Regarding the pentagon logo, I like the concept but as I said before I would prefer a logo where "SFML" is directly a part of it.
You can also recognize the library only by the logo itself, without the text.
The pentagon-shaped power button may be more unique, but if taken apart, it's hard to associate it to SFML. That's why I wish "SFML" could be better integrated.
The ellipse/power button may not be distinctive when taken apart, but the logo as a whole is (and the logo should only be considered as a whole IMO).
One thing I like about the ellipse is maintaining a continuity from the current logo.
SFML has been around for 6 years, its logo has never changed and is well known by many users. While I understand the need for a change, which is already reflected by the new website (cleaner, simpler), I wish the new logo reminds a bit of the former one, so users can still recognize easily SFML when they see it.
For example, the Microsoft Windows logo changed at every OS release to fit with design trends of the time, but they nevertheless maintained a continuity and avoided breaking the visual identity.
Anyway, some experiment with the pentagon.
I used Ubuntu-bold font, which is free.
(http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4960.0;attach=613;image)
Smaller icon:
(http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4960.0;attach=615;image)
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the font is Geometry Soft Pro (http://www.fontspace.com/cheapprofonts/geometry-soft-pro)
I just saw the license, which makes the font unusable for SFML. Next time, please read it :P
You may install and use an unlimited number of copies of the font within the same household, company, school or institution. You may NOT copy or distribute the font outside of the licensed household, company, school or institution. Please ask external contacts who want to use the font to get their own license at www.CheapProFonts.com.
You may embed the font in electronic documents, but you may NOT include the font in a software product - this requires a special license.
I don't see why that license is problematic. If you read their license FAQ (http://their license FAQ) along with the license, it says you can distribute images freely (and doesn't require them to be bitmaps, so vector graphics should be fine), so distributing images of SFML's logo should be fine, even for people to embed in their programs.
Yes, the license says you can't give the font to someone for them to embed in their program, but I really don't think anyone was ever planning on doing that. It's fine for SFML to use the font in its logo, and distribute images of the logo for people to embed in their programs.
Is that really problematic?
P.S. Awesome logos!
Edit: I just emailed the font creator to clarify the license terms...
Edit edit:
I just heard back from the font creator (dang he was fast!) and the font there is licensed for free. He has other variants and other fonts which have commercial licences that must be purchased. The commercial and free fonts are released under the same licensing terms (the only difference is that for some fonts, you have to pay to get them, and for others, like this one, you get the license for free). The license allows you to freely distribute the logo image (in either bitmap or vector form). The only restriction is that you cannot distribute the actual font file itself, which I don't think is problematic at all, since it can be freely downloaded by anyone who wants anyway, plus distributing the logo doesn't require distributing the font file.
If anyone wants the actual email correspondence, I can post it.
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This topic is an open discussion, I'm in no hurry to make a decision ;)
Yeah.. (mine italicemphasis)
I'm following this topic closely and daily tell friend of mine about the (lack of) progress in choosing logo.
him: hey, after we no longer know each other
him: in like 10 years or so
him: and they finally
FlamingRex: lol
him: make this logo
him: then drop me a mail or something, ok?
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Another one:
(http://i.imgur.com/FcK9sTn.png)
Inkscape file available on request.
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Cool stuff from everyone!
Here's a few more, emphasizing the pentagon shape:
1 (straight shine):
(http://i.imgur.com/voppzvL.png)
2 (round shine):
(http://i.imgur.com/LWXxPcY.png)
3 (flat with a slight drop shadow):
(http://i.imgur.com/JZutOD8.png)
Also, for those concerned about the Geometry font, if Laurent chooses it as the font but is still worried about the license, I can make an "SFML" that doesn't use the Geometry font but still has the look/feel (after all, the font is just simple lines with round joints/caps).
Laurent, what kind of experiments would you like to see?
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I really like the first and second ones. The pentagon background is a good idea :)
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+1 for number 2.
I really like how everybody's pushing this forward. A lot of small ideas from several people are being baked into a new logo. :)
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4 (with a symbol that has rounded caps):
(http://i.imgur.com/h5vyUHh.png)
5 (the pentagon is a bit rounder and has a higher contrast):
(http://i.imgur.com/hxFlAZ0.png)
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Pentagon background version:
(http://i.imgur.com/y5zvMlU.png)
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And light versions:
6:
(http://i.imgur.com/YjVmHcm.png)
7:
(http://i.imgur.com/TX99m3F.png)
I feel like this pentagon might be too round...
edit:
Here are some less round light versions:
8:
(http://i.imgur.com/Mzrr752.png)
9:
(http://i.imgur.com/XOgxpyC.png)
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Version 4 looks best in my opinion. I also find the pentagon too round at the others. Generally, I like the green background, but I don't know if it might be too much... Probably depends on where the logo is placed.
Also, thanks for clarifying the license issue. Just from reading the license file, it was really confusing (and that's usually the relevant part, not some FAQ on the homepage). I'm glad we can still use that font :)
In case you want a text "simple & fast multimedia library", you could still have a look at my PDFs and tell if there are fonts pleasing you.
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Version 4 looks best in my opinion. I also find the pentagon too round at the others. Generally, I like the green background, but I don't know if it might be too much... Probably depends on where the logo is placed.
Yeah, I'm kinda worried that the green power symbol might not work on the green banner of the website, but Laurent said he wanted to focus on making a logo that looks good alone, and then integrate it into the website, so I figure that if the logo is green the website will be modified as needed.
Also, thanks for clarifying the license issue. Just from reading the license file, it was really confusing (and that's usually the relevant part, not some FAQ on the homepage). I'm glad we can still use that font :)
Heh, when I see lawyer-speak my brain usually just shuts down.
In case you want a text "simple & fast multimedia library", you could still have a look at my PDFs and tell if there are fonts pleasing you.
Yeah, I'll have to go through it and play with some!
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Can we get a little blue in there.. just a suggestion ;)
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I'm going to be honest. I don't really like the symbol thing we have going on here. I feel that what represents SFML should either be an image where the focus is on the name "SFML" or just a symbol alone, without any text. The symbol seems to take all the attention in the graphic and doesn't really say what the project is about. In my opinion, such a generic symbol used for this project could send the wrong idea to new comers, because well to me honestly.. it looks childish. I'm not saying we don't have talent in this thread. We have that abundantly, I just don't like the "power button" idea. Maybe another symbol; one that at least has some relevance to what SFML actually does?
Why not include the name like the old logo. Use icons that don't take attention away from the title?
Or perhaps do as I said above and use a graphic that represents SFML better that way you can drop the name in the new logo.
definitely only two cents worth..
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I'm going to be honest. I don't really like the symbol thing we have going on here.
First, I want to say I like the honest criticism!
I feel that what represents SFML should either be an image where the focus is on the name "SFML" or just a symbol alone, without any text.
I think it's ideal to have "SFML" in the logo (in any of the suggestions, power symbol or not). The way I'm imagining this power symbol though, "SFML" would never be divorced from the power symbol. They'd always be together.
The symbol seems to take all the attention in the graphic and doesn't really say what the project is about.
I agree that it's not very descriptive of SFML, but to be honest, I've had a really hard time coming up with anything that really describes or properly represents SFML and its beating heart. I mean, how do you really represent and symbolize a "simple, fast, multimedia library?" I honestly don't think there's anything that truly, fully captures, represents, and symbolizes a "simple, fast, multimedia library." If there was a good one, I'd love to see it, but I certainly can't think of anything specific.
The current logo tries to say what the project is about, and, with all respect to Laurent, it does a pretty bad job. Yes, it shows things that are relevant to SFML (speaker for audio, input devices, a clapperboard for video (despite SFML not handling video)), but it's cluttered, non-unifying, "busy," etc. I'll post more of my thoughts about this at the end of this post.
In my opinion, such a generic symbol used for this project could send the wrong idea to new comers, because well to me honestly.. it looks childish.
Fair criticism. Can I ask what makes it look childish? I figure if there's something specific, it can either be fixed, or if it can't be fixed, at least other logos can know how to avoid the childishness.
I'm not saying we don't have talent in this thread. We have that abundantly, I just don't like the "power button" idea. Maybe another symbol; one that at least has some relevance to what SFML actually does?
Any ideas? It's easy to say that, and I've said that myself, but then I've found it incredibly difficult to find something wholly relevant and specific to SFML.
Why not include the name like the old logo.
Again, I've never imagined the power symbol being used without "SFML" right by it. But if there's a good way to "cement" them together, suggestions are welcome ;)
Use icons that don't take attention away from the title?
Do you feel like it takes away from "SFML" because it's visually distracting, or because it's symbolically distracting? Kind of a weird question... I'm not sure how to word it better, sorry.
definitely only two cents worth..
Nah, I'd say your honest review is worth more than two cents.
Here are my thoughts on logos and SFML:
- Personally, I don't think we should hold on to the old logo. At all. If the final logo has some similarity to the old logo, fine, but I don't think any effort should be made to actively try and make the new logo have any similarities to the old logo.
- I like Haze's logo, but honestly I don't like ellipses in logos. It's an overused motif (https://www.google.com/search?q=logo+ellipse&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Q_5tUe_fJ4fJiQKZy4CICw&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAQ&biw=1440&bih=718). Unless the logo is for a product/company/thing that has to do with planet or electron orbits, or the ellipses are used in incredibly creative ways, I feel like ellipses just detract from any kind of "identity" a logo is supposed to create in the first place.
- The new logo should be simple and distinct. Don't forget the "S" in "SFML." Many of the early (~2011) contributions were far from "simple."
- If you can think of a good thing that properly symbolizes, "captures," or is particularly relevant to SFML, use it! (I've found this to be quite hard)
- It should work in a single color (or grayscale) (I'm not saying it should be only one color or grayscale, but I am saying that if you made it one color or grayscale, it should still be visible and look good)
- I swear I had a ton of other thoughts on this... I'll update this if I think of any others
As much as I'd like to get Andrew Kim or some other awesome designer to create the logo, I don't think we'll get anyone quite like him :(
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First, I want to say I like the honest criticism!
And a +1 to you, with the speedy and thought provoking reply! :) It sure made me think!
And this is what I thought about.
You are absolutely right. It is going to be extremely difficult to find something that captures all of what SFML is and does without cluttering the logo. This should be avoided at all costs as logos should be straight forward and even slightly minimalist.
The reason I said the power symbol may appear childish is because it's a bit played out and cliche used in a logo. Just like you said with the ellipse, power symbols are used far too much in logos and banners, but specifically by those from a more immature and irrelevant background than ourselves. It's too vague and overused to have any lasting impact on viewers. I know it will be difficult to come up with something but I suggest we not invest ourselves too much in the "power" logo and iterations of it and perhaps try different shapes all together to see how they fly.
We should establish color schemes and shape themes to help designers focus their efforts on making something that reads closer to what SFML actually is. Laurent can help with this specifically. He hasn't stated clearly what he is looking for and it makes designing a logo like shooting in the dark.
I'm going to personally start experimenting with different colors and shapes to find something that would (if not) capture SFML better, at least be more original.
Thanks again for the reply :) I know how hard it can be to take criticism on something one is passionate about. Thanks for being open.
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I'm going to personally start experimenting with different colors and shapes to find something that would (if not) capture SFML better, at least be more original.
Cool, I look forward to seeing what you've got.
Thanks again for the reply :) I know how hard it can be to take criticism on something one is passionate about. Thanks for being open.
I'm not overly attached to any of my ideas :D I think we've hashed out enough iterations of the power symbol that Laurent can can narrow them down. I'll play with the good old paper and pencil and see if I can think of anything new.
Laurent, any directions or narrowing down that you can do would be quite helpful. We're gonna hit this thread's two year anniversary before long...
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As mentioned earlier, something "simple and fast" would be an arrow (or multiple arrows). A rocket would also be a possibility, but it's not necessarily simple ;)
If you liked that symbol more, we could exploit the insights from the latest creations and try something new with it...
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As mentioned earlier, something "simple and fast" would be an arrow (or multiple arrows).
I'm not entirely opposed to the idea of an arrow, but I'm having a hard time thinking of a way to make it look good. I think the coloration of the arrow you made wasn't optimal, and a short fat arrow has the irony of no longer looking fast.
A rocket would also be a possibility, but it's not necessarily simple ;)
Or a rocket strapped to a comet... with a raptor riding it... but yeah, not too simple ;D
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Yes, we should try something different if we chose an arrow. Maybe combine it with the pentagon, and maybe have 2-3 arrows...
Anyway, I also think Laurent should tell which ideas he generally likes and which ones not ;)
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You're putting too much pressure on me ;D
I'm like you, I have no idea about what the logo should be. I can tell you that the gray & green colors look good, as well as the "shining" effect. The font is ok too. But I have no idea about what symbol or shape the logo should have :(
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Gathering some feedback:
- slim arrow
- "SFML" part of the logo
- simple
...here is a new concept:
(http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4960.0;attach=617)
This is just a quick and dirty preview, I just had 5 minutes to do it. The arrow could be interleaved better with the letters, and the lighting effect must be adjusted. Then we could think about details to make it more "personal", like twisting the end of the arrow, using a "texture" instead of flat green, adding small details to the arrow, or whatever.
Just an idea :)
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...here is a new concept:
(http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4960.0;attach=617)
Hehe, that's also the idea that came to my mind, but I haven't had time to create it. ;)
I could also see the font and arrow slightly tilted.
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My opinion:
The off/on button was good. The power button reminder me of multimedia equipment, and that is somewhat related to the multimedia aspect of SFML.
The arrow only means speed and violence/hunting/war. The link with SFML is really small. And it's not as good looking really.
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(http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4960.0;attach=619;image)
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Here's a few quick ideas I've sketched out:
Using a "play" button to represent "multimedia" and curly braces {} to represent the "library" part:
(http://i.imgur.com/LKHAWO1.png)
More play buttons:
(http://i.imgur.com/DU2yu9N.png)
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Haze's arrow looks really good.
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Haze's arrow looks really good.
+1
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I would probably put the arrow behing the L, but it looks fantastic. It is the one that has appealed the most to me.
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The arrow looks like a wave/sine, doesn't it convey a wrong impression? (like audio/analysis stuff)
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Not to me. I see it more like you start at the beginning of something, and you end at somewhere else, which is further, using SFML. I could also go up to the point where there is up and down in every development process, and it could represent that, but I'm pretty sure that was thought when it was made haha :P
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The arrow looks like a wave/sine, doesn't it convey a wrong impression? (like audio/analysis stuff)
I thought it was a sine wave at first (and it probably is), and the first thing that came to me was a math library. I think Haze's logo is visually nice, but I'm having a hard time relating it to SFML itself. And in terms of being "fast" (which is what the arrow was originally meant to represent), a sine wave doesn't look very fast (but then again, I suppose the arrow can mean something other than "fast").
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I really like the idea of an arrow!
(http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4960.0;attach=617)
This is a great start I think. Maybe try some different arrow styles?
I also agree that the wavy arrow isn't quite what we want. A straight and true arrow is the way to go!
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Another one with straight arrow:
(http://i.imgur.com/DfbuYdw.png)
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This is a great start I think. Maybe try some different arrow styles?
I also agree that the wavy arrow isn't quite what we want. A straight and true arrow is the way to go!
I totally agree. Maybe one that looks more like an actual arrow (shot by a bow) rather than the logistic arrow.
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Laurent, will you please release SFML 2 without a logo (just plain "SFML" text on the website would do, I think)? I don't expect a final logo decision to be made any time soon, but it seems like a shame to have SFML 2 done and not released...
This thread could literally stretch on for eternity.
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I know... but I can't. I hope that the release of SFML 2.0 will be widely announced, and even if there's no logo, there will be "SFML" written in the menu bar, and that's what will be taken as the "logo" everywhere. I must have a logo.
But I'm more optimistic than you, I think we're getting close now.
And the packages are not all made anyway, so I can't release it now.
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Maybe one that looks more like an actual arrow (shot by a bow) rather than the logistic arrow.
Sure an arrow is fast, but there is quite a gap from a medieval weapon to a multimedia library, don't you think it would look out of place?
The arrow looks like a wave/sine, doesn't it convey a wrong impression? (like audio/analysis stuff)
I thought it was a sine wave at first (and it probably is), and the first thing that came to me was a math library. I think Haze's logo is visually nice, but I'm having a hard time relating it to SFML itself.
The sine was semi-intended. I've tried straight arrows but the results would look too generic for my tastes, so I went with a curve.
Regarding the conveyed impression, I believe a curve is strongly associated with 2D graphics, I think it could fit the purpose.
And in terms of being "fast" (which is what the arrow was originally meant to represent), a sine wave doesn't look very fast (but then again, I suppose the arrow can mean something other than "fast").
Point taken! The curve has been decreased so the arrow is a bit more straight. I've added a light gradient to make the arrow darker at its beginning, I hope it reminds less of a sine.
(http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4960.0;attach=623;image)
(http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4960.0;attach=625;image)
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It's far from final, just taken Laurent's idea, maybe one can further experiment on top of it:
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/356_sfml-arrow.png)
As always, just tell if anyone wants the PSD.
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Nexus, looking good! Have you tried with a white/bright SFML?
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What about an arrow inside a hexagon? Sounds fairly unique to me ... and then it can be separated from "SFML" to be used standalone.
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So, do we keep the arrow idea?
If so, what's your preferred version? Nexus, Haze or krzat?
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So far I preferred Haze's logos for whatever idea that was around at the time.
His arrow version also looks the best so far in my opinion, although I'm not quite sure if that "sine" shape would imply anything that SFML isn't. Then again, it makes it look more dynamic than a straight arrow.
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I also prefer Haze his version.
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I prefer Haze's version too (although I dislike the text "simple and...", I'd prefer "SFML" alone).
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So, do we keep the arrow idea?
You tell us ;)
I think if you can at least say "we will use <insert one of the past many ideas in this thread>" then people can focus on it and create various versions focusing on that idea.
If so, what's your preferred version? Nexus, Haze or krzat?
I prefer Nexus's most recent version (though I'd tweak it a bit). I think Haze's is aesthetically nice, but I personally feel like a sine wave doesn't relate to SFML very well (maybe if SFML was a vector graphics library or something). krzat's is interesting, but I think the "FML (https://www.google.com/search?q=fml&aq=f&oq=fml&aqs=chrome.0.57j5j60j0j60l2.1702j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#hl=en&gs_rn=9&gs_ri=psy-ab&tok=0GXzaj_uSpPv4yvGf9TDbg&pq=fml&cp=3&gs_id=c&xhr=t&q=define+fml&es_nrs=true&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&oq=deffml&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.45373924,d.cGE&fp=4d19d7881692d6da&biw=1440&bih=718)" stands out too much.
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You tell us
No :)
I can't decide alone, I'd like to find a logo that almost everyone likes.
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What must be the impression of the logo? Do you want to accentuate on the simplicity, the 2d rendering, the 3d rendering or the audio? I think that if you want to focus on 2d, it's a nice idea to make the logo 2d as well. I think krzat's logo really stands for simplicity. If you want to focus on 3d perhaps it's a nice idea to make the logo with blender or something? I read some Gnome application icons are made with blender too. Not that I can, though, not that creative xD
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I just want it to look good :P
And no, no 3D... SFML is everything but 3D.
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Do you have concrete suggestions how to refine mine? Bright text was already mentioned, other things?
And I can also upload the PSD if it's useful for anyone, we get much better results if multiple people experiment with it :)
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I can't decide alone, I'd like to find a logo that almost everyone likes.
Well, you'll nevertheless have the final say, so I think it would be better if you can give us some dos and don'ts.
Do you plan to drop all the previous ideas (ellipse/orbit, pentagon, power button), and should we focus on arrow derivations instead?
Some integration tests...
#1
(http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4960.0;attach=627;image)
#2 (increased drop shadow)
(http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4960.0;attach=631;image)
#3 (reflection on text)
(http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4960.0;attach=629;image)
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Do you plan to drop all the previous ideas (ellipse/orbit, pentagon, power button), and should we focus on arrow derivations instead?
I'll probably take the last active idea(s). So unless someone restarts working on the previous ones, I'll most likely drop them.
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I really like the arrow ideas! Especially Haze's. I haven't had time to fully flesh out my concepts but on paper they don't look that interesting anyway. I tried the hexagon; its no good. Tried putting "SFML" inside the hexagon and nothing. The whole time I was sitting here thinking of ideas and drawing them I just thought "this has nothing to do with SFML" So I guess we can all give up on that. :) On the other hand it freed me up to explore more exotic designs as well as a little mascot! I'll post what I've worked on so far as soon as I've polished it a bit more.
But yeah, really digging the arrow :) Hey Haze, try making the arrow blue or something to contrast the already strong green page layout.
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a little mascot!
Ah! This is exactly what I was thinking about, 1 minute before reading your post. What about "arrow-man", a cool cartoon guy leaned on the 'S' of SFML? ;D
The more I think about it, the more I feel like we need a mascot. Look at all those libraries that use simple shapes as logos, you never remember them, and hardly identify them when you just see the logo. But look at the Ogre engine. Although the "Ogre" word has nothing to do with 3D rendering, I think it's really cool and does a pretty good job as a logo.
PS: sorry for taking a new direction again
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Pick the raptor. :P
http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?topic=4960.msg71782#msg71782
It has the cool factor.
Octocat and tux have nothing to do with github and linux either(and octocat is very cool :), but tux looks somewhat sad :().
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But look at the Ogre engine. Although the "Ogre" word has nothing to do with 3D rendering, I think it's really cool and does a pretty good job as a logo.
"Ogre" = "Object-Oriented Graphics Rendering Engine" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OGRE)
But yeah, I think a cool mascot could be awesome.
Edit: Also, I'm just going to leave this here... (http://theoatmeal.com/comics/mantis_shrimp) ;D
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You guys aren't going to believe this but.. my computer shut off while I was working on the mockup of my second design (the one with mascot) and I didn't save it. So I lost everything. :(
Anyway here is what I was working on. A couple of weeks back I was working on a revamped version of the original logo
(http://i.imgur.com/5XGhUN9.png)
That ship sank.
Recently I read someone post about hexagons in this thread so I tried messing around with hexagons and "SFML" and this is what I got
(http://i.imgur.com/GCyH37m.png)
Just a proof of concept so you can see how the "SFML" would fit into the hexagon if I actually cared enough to do it.
The final logo I was working on was epic but.. my computer died. I'll start working on it again from scratch I guess. But yeah, we need mascot! #MASCOT.. just kidding that's not funny.
I think I'm just going to draw it by hand and scan it in because I just don't feel like dealing with Photoshop anymore today. Auto-save, Adobe! Have you heard of it?
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Anyway here is what I was working on. A couple of weeks back I was working on a revamped version of the original logo
(http://i.imgur.com/5XGhUN9.png)
I, personally, hope we can give the original logo a proper burial instead of trying to Frankenstein it.
Recently I read someone post about hexagons in this thread so I tried messing around with hexagons...
I don't think I've read about hexagons (though there's been plenty of talk about pentagons).
(http://i.imgur.com/GCyH37m.png)
Just a proof of concept so you can see how the "SFML" would fit into the hexagon if I actually cared enough to do it.
I know it's just a rough sketch, but I personally am not a fan of the idea. It's quite generic and not very memorable.
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I, personally, hope we can give the original logo a proper burial instead of trying to Frankenstein it.
Trust me, I had no intention (though I don't think the original logo needed much help being frankensteined as it was lol). This logo I worked on and never finished, was drafted weeks ago. Just putting it up as more brain fodder.
I don't think I've read about hexagons (though there's been plenty of talk about pentagons).
Hmm I'm pretty sure I did.. [found it; go read eigenbom's idea] ..Not that I need an excuse to make a hexagon logo if I want. But that is curious, why pentagons and not hexagons?.. Cornstalks you want to explain that strange appeal? :o
I know it's just a rough sketch, but I personally am not a fan of the idea. It's quite generic and not very memorable.
It is very rough and that could make it look less appealing. It's just putting it out there. Frankly I don't like it either or I'd invest more time in it.
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I don't think I've read about hexagons (though there's been plenty of talk about pentagons).
Hmm I'm pretty sure I did.. [found it; go read eigenbom's idea] ..Not that I need an excuse to make a hexagon logo if I want. But that is curious, why pentagons and not hexagons?.. Cornstalks you want to explain that strange appeal? :o
It was originally eigenbom's idea (http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?topic=4960.msg71784#msg71784), with the 5-sided pentagon representing the 5 modules of SFML. (and I just found his mention of the hexagon too (http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?topic=4960.msg77567#msg77567), thanks for pointing it out)
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I don't think I've read about hexagons (though there's been plenty of talk about pentagons).
Hmm I'm pretty sure I did.. [found it; go read eigenbom's idea] ..Not that I need an excuse to make a hexagon logo if I want. But that is curious, why pentagons and not hexagons?.. Cornstalks you want to explain that strange appeal? :o
It was originally eigenbom's idea (http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?topic=4960.msg71784#msg71784), with the 5-sided pentagon representing the 5 modules of SFML. (and I just found his mention of the hexagon too (http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?topic=4960.msg77567#msg77567), thanks for pointing it out)
Hey Cornstalks I want to get your feedback on the whole mascot idea. How do you feel about that?
Do you feel it should be an animal or a human figure? Mozilla and a few others have used animals.
Java uses a thing that isn't even human but looks personified. What are your thoughts?
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I just want it to look good :P
And no, no 3D... SFML is everything but 3D.
Well I suppose if I had to make a logo I would make it so that people associate it with the library. I mean, if it has to give a feeling of simplicity, perhaps all those shades and glow and I don't know how you call it should be evaded. The logos of Gtk+, Boost and Qt for example, look pretty but are still very simple. I'd suggest trying something like that. Also, is it needed that the name of the library is written on the logo? That makes it pretty big and it makes it harder to create small sizes of it, while still recognizing the letters, like the favicon of the site. What about "just" a nicely colored pentagon or some other shape?
I'm just throwing in some ideas, I'm not creative at all so please don't mind me if I say something stupid :)
EDIT: Or perhaps a shape with "sf" in it?
EDIT2 something like this? Very dirty quick sketch, svg available:
(http://i33.tinypic.com/1ob01y.jpg)
I found this post by Bigz, I think these are really good:
http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?topic=4960.msg73799#msg73799
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Hey Haze, try making the arrow blue or something to contrast the already strong green page layout.
I agree, it could be better with another colour, it looks too boring right now. The green/white colour scheme worked better with the ellipse logo.
What about "arrow-man", a cool cartoon guy leaned on the 'S' of SFML? ;D
The more I think about it, the more I feel like we need a mascot. Look at all those libraries that use simple shapes as logos, you never remember them, and hardly identify them when you just see the logo. But look at the Ogre engine. Although the "Ogre" word has nothing to do with 3D rendering, I think it's really cool and does a pretty good job as a logo.
I'm afraid a human cartoon guy would look childish and goofy, but an animal mascot would be great.
They are widely popular among open source projects and users love them, I suggest you have a look at http://chl.be/mascots/ (http://chl.be/mascots/) for some inspiration.
However, it will require some skills... and you also need to give some directions, or it will takes months, especially if we start from scratch...
Among the previous ideas, there were a falcon and raptor, what do you think about that?
Java uses a thing that isn't even human but looks personified.
The Java mascot is as ugly as the language it's portraying :P
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Java uses a thing that isn't even human but looks personified.
The Java mascot is as ugly as the language it's portraying :P
:P Agree!
I've thought of maybe a cheetah for a mascot. It could either be adult-like, really fast, and tough/mean looking, or it could be child-like, young, and "cute" (the former emphasizes speed but is less memorable/iconic, the latter is more memorable/iconic and "hints" at speed).
Someone earlier suggested a bird (falcon?), and a Peregrine Falcon could work too.
I think a young, "cute" mascot would be better than an old, mean one, personally, because that helps it seem more "user friendly" (that is, the type of animal (cheetah or falcon) suggests fast, and the cute/friendly suggests simple and user friendly).
Thoughts?
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I agree for cute/friendly. I have no opinion about the type of animal itself.
Cornstalks, would you be able to try something with an animal? That would be awesome :)
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What about 5 triangles with the symbol for each module on each forming a pentagon with spacing that are overlaying the letters sfml. Perhaps the triangles can be transparent too. :)
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Cornstalks, would you be able to try something with an animal? That would be awesome :)
Yeah, I'll try a cheetah and/or falcon over the weekend. I have what I think is a good idea... we'll see how it turns out in reality.
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I'm afraid a human cartoon guy would look childish and goofy, but an animal mascot would be great.
They are widely popular among open source projects and users love them, I suggest you have a look at http://chl.be/mascots/ (http://chl.be/mascots/) for some inspiration.
I had a look at it and there're some really funny ones ;D like for thttpd :
(http://chl.be/mascots/bill.gif)
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I would like a raven :P But don't think that would fit in to the whole deal with SFML :P
How about hedgehogs? Why? Cause they are awesome!
(http://f.kulfoto.com/pic/0001/0039/2mA7B38712.jpg)
Ow yeah, you might not know, but I have a hedgehog as a pet :P
PS: Also that picture will now be used for whenever anything crashes for me :P "Game crashed, Deal with it!"
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There's also a certain hedgehog that's fast ;)
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There's also a certain hedgehog that's fast ;)
My guess is that this certain hedgehog is trademarked...
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(http://i.imgur.com/QL8pj6J.png)
So this is what I've been working on. I like it better than the one I originally lost :o
The mascot is just blank for now (gave him some clothes or whatever) after we decide what it should be
maybe I'll mess around and edit him but the general idea I'm going with is he (it) sits on the L and an arrow
is above his head. I wanted to incorporate the previous logo designs too.
Haven't added any color or effects, just want to see what you all think about it before moving another step. I do like it very much however :)
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As already mentioned multiple times, we want to get rid of the multimedia symbols, since they clutter the logo and stand in contrast to "simple".
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As already mentioned multiple times, we want to get rid of the multimedia symbols, since they clutter the logo and stand in contrast to "simple".
(http://i.imgur.com/x8X2Ic8.png)
Easy. Any thoughts about the positions of the actual mascot on the logo?
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I've got a logo for you. It's simple and fast:
(http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/2475/chujr.png)
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I've got a logo for you. It's simple and fast:
please lets not get all Code::Blocks 12.11 up in here. Lets take the time to think of something good.
(http://wiki.codeblocks.org/images/c/c7/Cb_splash.png)
ugghhhh..
I just had an epiphany. The logo doesn't have to be an animal or a humanoid.. it can be a fruit! :D
I vote orange!
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What about something like this ? It's a very quick and dirty job, but i like the idea of a single plain color :
(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/104/falconlogotest.png)
In fact i don't know if the hawk should be of profile or three-quarter, profile gives better one impression of speed but three quarter better reports the bird.
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I hesitate to show you guys this because it's nowhere near done, but here's what it's looking like so far:
(http://i.imgur.com/5hsJTfg.png)
Some things I have left to do:
- The ears
- The spots (I just threw some circles/ovals on there... I'll make the spots more irregular and not perfect ovals for the final version)
- The eyes
- The mouth
- Touching up the colors
- The head's shape & size
- The black lines that connect the eyes and mouth
- The tail
- The "SFML"
- In short, pretty much everything...
Please take this (the fact that it's nowhere near done and I plan on changing it and touching it up) into consideration when looking at this!
As I said, I hesitate showing people things in such an unfinished state, but I figure some early feedback could potentially be helpful.
Some kind of feedback I'm looking for:
- Is the pose acceptable?
- Is it too "cute" or young?
- Is it the right animal? (I picked cheetah because it's instantly recognizable to people as a fast animal and it is generally easier to do a friendly-looking version of a cat than many other animals)
- After seeing this quick sketch, do you still think a mascot is an idea worth exploring, or has this preview changed your mind?
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Although it's not really a contribution and that there will always be negative oponions about any idea, I still want to say (again), that I find a mascot a bad idea.
Personally I can't remember logos with mascots better and in many cases it makes things just quite silly and maybe a bit childish.
A mascot is usually used to carry a certain brand, which is a connection between different parts and not one simple library.
I know you want it to be done right, but working on a logo can take forever. Just think about how long a whole team works on new iterations of the Windows or Apple logos. If we have another year to kill, just to find the perfect logo, then "okay", otherwise I think we have to make decisions now on what the vision exactly is and if the community can't match the expectations (no offence to anyone, you're doing a great job!), one could also think about outsourcing it to a company, that specializes on making logos.
It's just very sad to see the code being tagged, the website & tutorials finished and all the progress is stopped due to some silly logo choosing. :(
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I must say I really liked the bird version :)
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I totally agree with eXpl0it3r.
Just to summarize our journey to find a SFML 2 logo -- in 2011, we had the logo with multimedia symbols, where 2 candidates were most popular:
(http://www.picamatic.com/show/2011/06/09/09/46/7616250_1280x800.png)(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/92_SFMLLogo.png)
At the beginning of 2013, we headed into a new direction, because the multimedia symbols were too heavy. After a long time, we concentrated on a few logos including a power button:
(http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4960.0;attach=609;image) (https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/348_variation7.png) (http://i.imgur.com/h5vyUHh.png)
Then, we incorporated the arrow:
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/356_sfml-arrow.png) (http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4960.0;attach=625;image)
Every time, people were excited about the logos, and even Laurent said they would look nice. Suddenly, somebody has another idea, and we have to throw away everything.
This process can go on forever, and it's frustrating for people who have put a lot of effort into the logos. Consider the amount of time we have already been searching for an SFML logo. In the last few weeks, there have been a lot of really good ideas coming up. In my opinion, we should invest the remaining time on refining them, instead of wasting it with completely new ideas again and again.
We can still search a new logo for SFML 3, but then we have enough time, don't need to delay the SFML release and aren't forced to find a last-minute decision.
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(http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4960.0;attach=625;image)
I vote for this one.
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Concerning mascots, I don't agree that they are better memorizable, or look better in general. Many professional logos use a simple shape or figure. Just look at the following logos in the field of programming or game development. All of them are pretty unique in their style, and many of them look good. Also, they can be memorized very well.
(http://chrisambrook.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/directx_logo.jpg) (http://www.download-source.de/upload/files/OpenGL.jpeg)
(https://pilas.readthedocs.org/en/latest/_images/box2d.png) (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/00/Irrlicht_Logo.png)
(http://www.geeks3d.com/public/jegx/200808/boost-library.jpg)
(http://www.libsdl.org/images/SDL_logo.png) (http://www.designcastle.ch/gamedesign/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/unity_logo.jpg) (http://www.apfeltalk.de/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=95607&d=1362492907&stc=1)
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It's just very sad to see the code being tagged, the website & tutorials finished and all the progress is stopped due to some silly logo choosing.
Packaging is not finished. So technically, the logo is not blocking the release yet ;)
I think Nexus is right, it's time to stop. We have many good ideas that got positive feedback from everyone, so even if it doesn't feel perfect -- it will never be -- let's choose one.
I personally like this one a lot:
(http://i.imgur.com/h5vyUHh.png)
And this one would come second:
(http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4960.0;attach=625;image)
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Why not launch a vote ?
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eXpl0it3r and Nexus have perfectly expressed my very thoughts.
Why not launch a vote ?
I think that would be great. Laurent, perhaps you could make a voting thread, where you pick the top candidates?
I personally prefer either this one:
(http://i.imgur.com/h5vyUHh.png)
Or this one:
(http://i.imgur.com/Mzrr752.png)
With this one being my second choice (I'm not in love the the sine wave, but I think it's aesthetically nice):
(http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4960.0;attach=623;image)
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I don't know how well a vote would turn out. I think if that is the case Laurent should go with a "I will take your opinion into consideration but it will not control my final decision"-vote.
In the end, he is the one that will have to live with it and he should at all times have the final say in my opinion ^^
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Ignore the anti-aliasing, it's scaled. Considering only the symbol, the thing I like more in
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/348_variation7.png)
than in
(http://i.imgur.com/h5vyUHh.png)
is that it doesn't look so soft/rounded. The first one makes a more... hm, "self-confident" or "resolute" impression :)
Also, the thickness of the power symbol matches the font's thickness better. Maybe we can try with a slightly less round symbol?
In Haze's arrow logo, the beginning of the arrow should overlap the "SFML" text, then it looks more symmetric with its end.
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Ok, so let's focus on these two logos. And let's say that I'll make the final decision in 7 days; I promised that the release would happen in april, and I don't want to lie ;)
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Ok, so let's focus on these two logos. And let's say that I'll make the final decision in 7 days; I promised that the release would happen in april, and I don't want to lie ;)
Yay!!! I'm really excited for the final release!
In response to some of Nexus's feedback, here are several variations:
1 dark:
(http://i.imgur.com/3adxhfW.png)
2 dark:
(http://i.imgur.com/vnG901t.png)
3 dark:
(http://i.imgur.com/5lBMroC.png)
4 dark:
(http://i.imgur.com/hu0kIa8.png)
5 dark:
(http://i.imgur.com/IAKWLDC.png)
6 dark:
(http://i.imgur.com/fwfSqpM.png)
1 light:
(http://i.imgur.com/4m6GqFG.png)
2 light:
(http://i.imgur.com/LUEQrsF.png)
3 light:
(http://i.imgur.com/LSAHRcI.png)
4 light:
(http://i.imgur.com/FG6xOmq.png)
5 light:
(http://i.imgur.com/b3AKO9Z.png)
6 light:
(http://i.imgur.com/qKpJxIh.png)
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Aww, I had just finished combining some logo ideas with animals.
They're attached if anyone wants a look. Either way, a decision sounds like a good idea and I fully support the power pentagons.
1 Dark and 2 Light in particular are nice.
Spine Tailed Swift, fastest bird at level flight
Peregrine Falcon, fastest bird in a freefall
[attachment deleted by admin]
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Cornstalks, I think variation 2 looks quite nice!
Do you have a PSD or something of it? I'd like to test some stuff :)
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Cornstalks, I think variation 2 looks quite nice!
Do you have a PSD or something of it? I'd like to test some stuff :)
Certainly! Here's a zip of the SVGs and some hi-res PNGs (https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0BxWx_dIBnyRoeVFVWS15eDdnM2M).
If anyone wants, I can provide more stuff. Just let me know.
@Waylorn: Thanks for sharing! I think they're interesting combinations of some ideas.
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Aww, I had just finished combining some logo ideas with animals.
They're attached if anyone wants a look. Either way, a decision sounds like a good idea and I fully support the power pentagons.
1 Dark and 2 Light in particular are nice.
Spine Tailed Swift, fastest bird at level flight
Peregrine Falcon, fastest bird in a freefall
The logo with the peregrine falcon and the sine wave together (or the linear one) is a great idea that should really be taken is consideration!
It gives the feeling of a fast library, and an animal is more appealing and singular than a simple symbol.
For sure it should be improved ! :)
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Just a random logo I drew in paint, not good at image editing.
(http://i.imgur.com/RM5GMmF.png)
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Just a random logo I drew in paint, not good at image editing.
(http://i.imgur.com/RM5GMmF.png)
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner. The pinnacle of simplicity. The climax of elegance. From a guy that came out of no where. Well done Sythical. I love it.
I finished my cheetah mascot logo thingy. Don't use it, I'm just posting it because it's rough is done. I pixel drew it instead of using vectors.
(http://i.imgur.com/YukkAxg.png)
Use either Sythicals, Cornstalks or Haze's + Waylorn logo.
Either of these three would make me happy. Everyone is right, we don't have time to be exploring every single idea, even if they are cool ones. We need to choose, the logos look pretty final to me. Looks like the whole mascot thing will have to wait for SFML 3 ;)
Pick a logo already! My vote is with Sythical!
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I quickly created this logo in Photoshop:
(http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd401/222464/SFMLLogo.png)
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Waylorn's ideas are really neat. Love the spine tailed swift. Bonus points for picking bird species that match the trajectories. :D
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Thank you for the kind words Ricky :)
I used lower case because they seem 'cleaner'. The larger triangle was me trying to add an arrow in to the logo and I then decided to add another triangle to make a compound shape (showing shapes can be broken down into triangles). Slightly larger version without the version number:
(http://i.imgur.com/txEjiiP.png)
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(http://i.imgur.com/txEjiiP.png)
I do like the simplicity of this idea.
I think the silhouette or a black+white version of a logo should be agreed on first, and then we can iterate on variations of colours/shininess etc. And in my opinion the shiny font logos look generally worse than the current logo (not that the current logo is THAT bad.) ;) But then again I'm a fan of the Flat UI (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=flat+ui&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=vNF0UanfKdCciAeiuoHQCA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAQ&biw=1140&bih=690) versus bubble/shiny UI.
And finally, I drew some more pentagon variations, because I love the idea of the pentagon! ;D Obviously they would be coloured to whatever the website theme was.
(http://bp.io/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/sfmllogos.png)
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When we say "stop, it's time to decide", we start to get many new interesting contributions... nice :P
Anyway, I'll stick to the 28th april deadline, and I'll take the best looking logo at that date. So if you want one of these new ideas to be a candidate... hurry up ;)
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(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/348_variation7.png)
Betwen those two, I prefer this one (for the symbol) if opinions can be given.
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(http://i.imgur.com/txEjiiP.png)
This look good, and triangles are easy to understand.
But maybe kerning between l and icon should be the same as between letters.
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(http://i.imgur.com/txEjiiP.png)
What typeface is this?
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I was intrigued by the arrow idea, but I thought there should be a little more movement.
(http://s21.postimg.org/6ads4wmyv/sfml_in_motion.png)
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But maybe kerning between l and icon should be the same as between letters.
Yes you're right, not sure why I didn't adjust the spacing.
What typeface is this?
I font I used is Segoe UI.
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I font I used is Segoe UI.
1) What is its license? Is it free to use for SFML?
2) Do we/Laurry care if it's not?
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I tried integrating it:
(http://hashcookie.net/uploads/004dda44ed_sfmlwebsiteblack.png)
(http://hashcookie.net/uploads/5323a632ab_sfmlwebsitewhite.png)
SVG (http://hashcookie.net/uploads/a770f0eb8a_sfml.svg) (kerning doesn't work in some programs for some reason)
PNG (http://hashcookie.net/uploads/c8f476ddb3_sfml.png)
As I don't have Segoe UI I used the slightly similar Open Sans (http://www.fontsquirrel.com/fonts/open-sans).
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In terms of symbols, what about a lightning bolt? It's a simple shape, it conveys "speed", and it could easily integrate with most of the letters of "SFML". I don't have the software now for a mockup, but I will throw an image in when I get a chance.
I know it's late in the game to introduce a new concept, but I figure I might as well do it before there is no more time.
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(http://i.imgur.com/h5vyUHh.png)
This is my vote!
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Laurent, I think it's great you've decided to put a deadline on the logo.
I expect this week to be full of news propositions!
And thanks Nexus and eXpl0it3r for these wise words, it was clear we couldn't keep suggesting new ideas forever, especially since it's holding back the SFML 2.0 release.
Ignore the anti-aliasing, it's scaled. Considering only the symbol, the thing I like more in
https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/348_variation7.png than in http://i.imgur.com/h5vyUHh.png
is that it doesn't look so soft/rounded. The first one makes a more... hm, "self-confident" or "resolute" impression :)
Also, the thickness of the power symbol matches the font's thickness better. Maybe we can try with a slightly less round symbol?
But the round logo matches better the roundness of the font... also I'm not a fan of the green, it looks too grey-ish. What about a lighter one, closer to the website banner?
@eigenbom nice variations. I like the last four ones and the double arrow.
Here's a revamp of my previous attemp, I tried to keep a curvy arrow while getting ride of sine wave.
(http://i.imgur.com/px3MMCR.png)
with text reflection:
(http://i.imgur.com/DW89NEk.png)
double arrow:
(http://i.imgur.com/XZSPHSX.png)
I'm not sure if the arrow should overlap the first or last letter...
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(http://i.imgur.com/h5vyUHh.png)
This is my vote!
Me too!
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(http://i.imgur.com/h5vyUHh.png)
This is my vote!
Me too!
+1
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It's cool to see the explosion of ideas! I encourage people to iterate on ideas during this week.
also I'm not a fan of the green, it looks too grey-ish. What about a lighter one, closer to the website banner?
Here are some brighter greens:
1 dark:
(http://i.imgur.com/RduG0Ox.png)
2 dark:
(http://i.imgur.com/AnZdLTe.png)
3 dark:
(http://i.imgur.com/kz60rQa.png)
4 dark:
(http://i.imgur.com/ylRybmP.png)
5 dark:
(http://i.imgur.com/gB5Pvau.png)
6 dark:
(http://i.imgur.com/VIg9zYa.png)
1 light:
(http://i.imgur.com/cIWrSys.png)
2 light:
(http://i.imgur.com/o9DpsY9.png)
3 light:
(http://i.imgur.com/CvzFn1G.png)
4 light:
(http://i.imgur.com/XBy1HFY.png)
5 light:
(http://i.imgur.com/IuhnSur.png)
6 light:
(http://i.imgur.com/xs4LDXO.png)
imgur album of these images (http://imgur.com/RduG0Ox,AnZdLTe,kz60rQa,ylRybmP,gB5Pvau,VIg9zYa,cIWrSys,o9DpsY9,CvzFn1G,XBy1HFY,IuhnSur,xs4LDXO#0). If you want to compare these brighter greens with the darker greens, here is the imgur album for the darker greens (http://imgur.com/3adxhfW,vnG901t,5lBMroC,hu0kIa8,IAKWLDC,fwfSqpM,4m6GqFG,LUEQrsF,LSAHRcI,FG6xOmq,b3AKO9Z,qKpJxIh#0).
The gradients in these images can be very easily modified, so if anyone has any suggestions or ideas it's easy to play with them! And, as always, just let me know and I can provide you with original files.
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I think we need a light shadow, so that it looks good on green/gray backgrounds -- like the banner of the website.
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I think we need a light shadow, so that it looks good on green/gray backgrounds -- like the banner of the website.
Here's a slight shadow on variations 2 & 5:
2 dark, light shadow:
(http://i.imgur.com/JbN2VmG.png)
5 dark, light shadow:
(http://i.imgur.com/eqWyUz5.png)
2 light, light shadow:
(http://i.imgur.com/yAsl7h6.png)
5 light, light shadow:
(http://i.imgur.com/MGPC64Y.png)
2 dark, slightly darker shadow:
(http://i.imgur.com/75smcVC.png)
5 dark, slightly darker shadow:
(http://i.imgur.com/0hlfiYg.png)
2 light, slightly darker shadow:
(http://i.imgur.com/qXbSe3D.png)
5 light, slightly darker shadow:
(http://i.imgur.com/1u8uObV.png)
Of course, just shout out if you have any feedback or any requests!
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(http://i.imgur.com/px3MMCR.png)
I think this is my favorite one.
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(http://i.imgur.com/px3MMCR.png)
I think this is my favorite one.
Me too
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(http://i.imgur.com/px3MMCR.png)
I think this is my favorite one.
Me too
me three :D
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I know I'm bad at making logos and stuff but :P
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l46/KurdG/logo_zpsf32eb7cf.png)
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l46/KurdG/logo2_zpsd297b8b8.png)
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(http://i.imgur.com/px3MMCR.png)
I think this is my favorite one.
Me too
me three :D
Me four. The other one looks too dirty and evil in some way, while this one is clean and happy.
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(http://i.imgur.com/px3MMCR.png)
I think this is my favorite one.
Me too
me three :D
Me four. The other one looks too dirty and evil in some way, while this one is clean and happy.
Me five :D
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Haze's new logo variation feels too 80's to me. It's like the 'n' at the end of Designing Women's title.
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2 dark, slightly darker shadow:
(http://i.imgur.com/75smcVC.png)
2 light, slightly darker shadow:
(http://i.imgur.com/qXbSe3D.png)
I really like these two, good work.
(http://i.imgur.com/px3MMCR.png)
The logo is a bit asymmetric: The distances begin-middle and middle-end of the arrow are different, thus the middle is offset to the left, even in spite of the wider letter "M". Also, in my opinion the arrow color is too "boring".
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I thought Waylorn's concept deserved to be given a serious try. I've incorporated it with Cornstalks' font.
Full disclosure: I used the bird from the Hollister logo for reference. The similarity might be a problem...
[attachment deleted by admin]
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I'm not a big fan of the wavy arrow. To me, it looks like SFML printed over a road, path or ribbon with the arrow indicating the direction it should be traveled or (in the case of the ribbon) pulled.
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Hey Everyone,
I'd just like to clarify and apologize.
First the clarification. I never meant to get the whole logo designing process off track. I just wanted to mix in some fresh ideas. I did not mean to belittle the hard work of any of the talented artists here. This especially goes out to Cornstalks, whom accepted my critic on his logo, which had the quality of a professionally created graphic, while my own were always rough concepts not nearly as ready to be used as an logo. Neither were they meant to, I posted simply ideas. I wanted the exploration of different ideas. I felt that the community was cementing around a logo I thought wrongly presented SFML. I now feel different about this. A logo does not have to have anything in common with what it represents. That is the point of a logo.
I apologize if I came off as "the guy" that criticizes people's hard work and does not even put the time into his own. I would have liked to produce some quality logos for SFML but I just don't have the time. I know some of the more older members have their posts directed towards me, apparently blaming me for potentially delaying the release of SFML but Laurent did state many times that the packages were not ready so I wasn't really delaying the release by requesting the exploration of new ideas. I do not regret any of the new ideas that were explored because of me shaking up the stagnant waters of this thread. I do, however extend my apologies to those it frustrated and upset. Sorry.
Also I have a modification in mind for Cornstalks logo... to give it a more unique look. I'm just an idea guy after all.
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I'd just like to clarify and apologize.
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I've no idea, how you got the idea, that mine/our critic was aimed at you. :o
It was a general statement, seeing how we still didn't have a fixed deadline (now we do) and how the ideas started to spread in all directions again. And form my side I also wanted to point out, that I'm not fond of the mascot-idea. So again nothing was directed at you and thus you don't have to apologize to anyone. ;)
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(http://i.imgur.com/h5vyUHh.png)
This is my vote!
Me too!
+1
This.
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I'd just like to clarify and apologize.
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I've no idea, how you got the idea, that mine/our critic was aimed at you. :o
It was a general statement, seeing how we still didn't have a fixed deadline (now we do) and how the ideas started to spread in all directions again. And form my side I also wanted to point out, that I'm not fond of the mascot-idea. So again nothing was directed at you and thus you don't have to apologize to anyone. ;)
You know the saying "if the hat fits, wear it". I only apologized because I wanted to and because your post made me want to. Even though your post wasn't directed towards me I still wanted to apologize because I realized I was acting selfish and like an ass. It's easy to take an idea someone has worked days on and throw it out the window because you had nothing invested in it. I'll be more sensitive to this in the future.
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And form my side I also wanted to point out, that I'm not fond of the mascot-idea.
I agree with you. The idea of a mascot seems kind of silly.
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And form my side I also wanted to point out, that I'm not fond of the mascot-idea.
I agree with you. The idea of a mascot seems kind of silly.
Many projects have mascots and they have made it work well for them. Never the less.. my iteration.
(http://i.imgur.com/aUB6oLO.png)
-edit- SVG TOO BIG
Cornstalks do you mind trying out a different style of wedge? maybe something like what I have. I don't have the skill with vector graphics so I just hacked it in there.
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(http://i.imgur.com/px3MMCR.png)
The logo is a bit asymmetric: The distances begin-middle and middle-end of the arrow are different, thus the middle is offset to the left, even in spite of the wider letter "M". Also, in my opinion the arrow color is too "boring".
The asymmetry gives the illusion that the arrow is travelling to the right. Although I don't like that kink in the middle. Nevertheless, compare the that logo with the pentagon one, the arrow one feels like its moving, to me at least. The arrow colour can be changed, but as I've said previously we should be talking about the actual design, and not about the colours or shading.
I think Ricky's latest edit makes the power symbol a bit more interesting, but I still think the logo is not that memorable or meaningful. What about a power symbol means "simple" "fast" "media" or "library"? The idea that SFML "gives you power" is a bit far fetched and generic, every library can be said to do that.
But despite all this, I still think we've got better logos than the direct competitor, SDL. :)
Also, I really love Haxe's logo...
(http://haxe.org/img/haxe2/logo.png)
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(http://i.imgur.com/aUB6oLO.png)
That looks very good -- well-integrated and interesting :)
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(http://i.imgur.com/aUB6oLO.png)
That looks very good -- well-integrated and interesting :)
I second that. It's the piece I've missed for saying "Yes, NOW it fits!" ;) Other than eigenbom I find the logo very memorable. I haven't seen such a logo somewhere else yet, and its shape is quite unique. The logo can be also used as a smaller icon without problems.
It would be nice to see the logo integrated into the website.
The idea that SFML "gives you power" is a bit far fetched and generic, every library can be said to do that.
I interpret the logo as "Powered by (SFML's) five modules".
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I just want to leave a note before I sleep that I'll create an SVG of Ricky's idea tomorrow, as well as try and play around with some variations and alternatives. But for now, I'm sleeping :)
Ricky, great idea!
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Alright, so here are some alternatives. One version combines the arrow idea with the power symbol (in both round and square edges), and the other version is a vectorized version of Ricky's idea. All of these are on the brighter green background, and I've included a couple of drop shadow variations.
1, no shadow:
(http://i.imgur.com/hEyvYFo.png)
1, sharp shadow:
(http://i.imgur.com/kBqdqNz.png)
1, softer shadow:
(http://i.imgur.com/FPJ1s43.png)
2, no shadow:
(http://i.imgur.com/VCYsEX2.png)
2, sharp shadow:
(http://i.imgur.com/WamknfV.png)
2, softer shadow:
(http://i.imgur.com/NXyFNHb.png)
3, no shadow:
(http://i.imgur.com/WuN8JlJ.png)
3, sharp shadow:
(http://i.imgur.com/8ceQl02.png)
3, softer shadow:
(http://i.imgur.com/sDgpUpl.png)
imgur album (http://imgur.com/hEyvYFo,kBqdqNz,FPJ1s43,VCYsEX2,WamknfV,NXyFNHb,WuN8JlJ,8ceQl02,sDgpUpl#0)
Again, colors, effects (i.e. shadows), widths, gaps, etc. can always be tweaked. Let me know if you have any feedback! Also, feel free to experiment with these things. If anyone wants any SVGs or high-res versions let me know.
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I prefer this one
3, sharp shadow:
(http://i.imgur.com/8ceQl02.png)
But with the border shadow of this one
3, softer shadow:
(http://i.imgur.com/sDgpUpl.png)
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Great idea to combine the power button with the arrow. This is getting better and better, nice work guys. :)
1, softer shadow:
(http://i.imgur.com/FPJ1s43.png)
I like that one the most.
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It's funny you thought of the same thing I did. I was going to recommend you do exactly that. Put the arrow inside the the pentagon. It only seemed like the logical direction to go with this logo, I guess :)
Try using the arrow in the pentagon version with a pentagon with hard edges so it fits more, just to see how it looks.
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Sorry but I find the arrow in the pentagon non-natural and too heavy.
The previous logo looks so perfect now :-*
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(http://i.imgur.com/sDgpUpl.png)
This one was perfect!
I love it.
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(http://i.imgur.com/sDgpUpl.png)
This one was perfect!
I love it.
I think it would be even better if the pentagon was on top of the text:
{}
SFML
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Wouldn't it be better with a longer arrow and the power symbol nearer the SFML, like this :
(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/3519/testsfml.png)
instead of this ?
(http://i.imgur.com/hEyvYFo.png)
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Putting the logo on the other side of "SFML" might also be worth considering, since it could move closer to "SFML", because of the space the 'L' provides (in contrast to 'S').
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(http://i.imgur.com/px3MMCR.png)
I think this is my favorite one.
Me too
me three :D
Me four. The other one looks too dirty and evil in some way, while this one is clean and happy.
Me five :D
I guess we should give him his money, this feels like the best option. The arrow twists at the start as work is done and then shoots straight out at the end showing speed, logo is clean, light and easy on the eyes, full score imo!
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Here is another concept that someone sent me. The idea behind the logo is obvious, no need to explain :P
In case you like it, it's not the final version, it can still be refined.
It's really late (final choice is tomorrow)... but that's a candidate anyway. Let's give it a chance.
[attachment deleted by admin]
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2 dark, light shadow:
(http://i.imgur.com/JbN2VmG.png)
I like this one.
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I like Cornstalks' 3rd variant (shadow or not depends on context) - but wouldn't it be better to make the text colour brighter/more white? Right now it looks dark, dirty and evil.
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I still like Haze'd twisty arrow logo the best.
2 dark, light shadow:
(http://i.imgur.com/JbN2VmG.png)
I like this one.
But this would be my second choice.
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I'll post some versions with light text and extended arrow tails tomorrow. Also let me know if anyone has any other ideas! I'll give a better response to things tomorrow, I'm posting from my mobile now.
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For me, these two are the best creations so far:
(http://i.imgur.com/FPJ1s43.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/sDgpUpl.png)
It's difficult to tell which one of them I prefer. Fonts or shadows can still be adapted, but I would keep this concept.
However I don't like the new one, it's way too cluttered (the thing that we are trying to leave behind since months) and has strange fonts.
(http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4960.0;attach=647;image)
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However I don't like the new one, it's way too cluttered (the thing that we are trying to leave behind since months) and has strange fonts.
(http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4960.0;attach=647;image)
I actually find these images to be really neat.The little box kind of shows the power of sfml and the text itself looks good. I like the last row personally, especially the one in the 2nd column, looks sweet.
Can we see that on the website?
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The little box kind of shows the power of sfml and the text itself looks good.
The symbols are difficult to relate to SFML (it reminds me of statistics and RSS), and not easy to memorize. What I really love in Cornstalk's logo is the combination of simplicity, uniqueness and meaning -- in my opinion, no other logo in this thread has achieved this.
Apart from that, the logo is completely unpolished. It will take at least another week until we can agree on a suitable variation. Taking into account that we wanted to refine existing ideas and that we have a deadline, I would say such a proposal should have come earlier. For existing logos however (the ones of Cornstalks and Haze), there exist already tons of variations and integrations into the website, so we meanwhile have a good overview how the logo will look like in different situations. For the new logo, we have nothing except an idea.
Can we see that on the website?
Why don't you put it together? ;)
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I think nobody cares what the meaning of a logo is, it just needs to be memorable and identifiable. Look at the logo of famous and popular brands. :p
BTW will there be a proper poll?
I like this one (http://i.imgur.com/sDgpUpl.png). (though it would be better without the "web 2.0 shadow" :p )
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BTW will there be a proper poll?
No. Everyone already gave his opinion, I think it would be useless to start collecting feeback again.
I think it's pretty clear that the winner is one of these two variations:
(http://i.imgur.com/FPJ1s43.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/sDgpUpl.png)
... although this one was really good too
(http://i.imgur.com/px3MMCR.png)
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The latter looks very good indeed, but it can't beat the quality in the others I believe :D
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Good to see that we are getting to an end! :)
I find the development of the logo quite interesting: It began with a pentagon for the 5 modules, then the idea of a power button came up, and eventually it was combined with the arrow (simple and fast / moving forward).
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and eventually it was combined with the arrow
Although the one with the arrow has a stronger meaning, I personally prefer the other one.
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I like this one (http://i.imgur.com/sDgpUpl.png). (though it would be better without the "web 2.0 shadow" :p )
I did post a version without the shadow (http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?topic=4960.msg78019#msg78019) :)
Wouldn't it be better with a longer arrow and the power symbol nearer the SFML, like this :
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I certainly think it's worth trying!
Putting the logo on the other side of "SFML" might also be worth considering, since it could move closer to "SFML", because of the space the 'L' provides (in contrast to 'S').
The first several iterations had the symbol on the right, but after several suggest it be moved to the left I moved tot he left. I think the symbol on the left gives it a more natural left-to-right reading. But yes, fine tuning the kerning between the L and the symbol could be neat, but I think putting it on the left is best.
Here is another concept that someone sent me. The idea behind the logo is obvious, no need to explain :P
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It actually took me a long time to try and get the idea behind the logo (and there are a couple parts of it I'm still not 100% sure about). I like the idea (it's trying to visually describe what SFML does), but I think it comes across as busy/anti-simple.
I like Cornstalks' 3rd variant (shadow or not depends on context) - but wouldn't it be better to make the text colour brighter/more white? Right now it looks dark, dirty and evil.
I've posted several versions with the white text but no one ever said they preferred it (as opposed to the dark, which got mentioned several times) (at least I don't recall the white being preferred). But I feel the same, and actually prefer the white. I'll post some version with white text (and if there are things about the white text that could make it better, just say so!).
Alright, now I'm going to post some more variants/tweaks...
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... although this one was really good too
(http://i.imgur.com/px3MMCR.png)
I think that the arrow could be improved a little. To me it looks like at the end on the left side it curves down too much. An on the second fold, it gets a little too narrow. My vote would still be with this logo, though they all look great. SFML 2 is released today, right?
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I've posted several versions with the white text but no one ever said they preferred it
Probably because it's always shown on white background. But on the website, for example, a white version would integrate better.
SFML 2 is released today, right?
The logo is chosen today. Then it's finalized, integrated, and SFML 2 is released next week ;)
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Here's a few testing some outlines and brightnesses:
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(http://i.imgur.com/ZZhgFwH.png)
2:
(http://i.imgur.com/DsvzAfi.png)
3:
(http://i.imgur.com/dZFWTp1.png)
4:
(http://i.imgur.com/m3FbdvE.png)
5:
(http://i.imgur.com/IWLXU4V.png)
6:
(http://i.imgur.com/kSKytP6.png)
7:
(http://i.imgur.com/DnH1BUG.png)
8:
(http://i.imgur.com/4XUQ5ED.png)
9:
(http://i.imgur.com/gzg9G0F.png)
imgur album (http://imgur.com/ZZhgFwH,DsvzAfi,dZFWTp1,m3FbdvE,IWLXU4V,kSKytP6,DnH1BUG,4XUQ5ED,gzg9G0F#0)
And all of these are about testing some different arrow lengths, gradients, and light vs dark:
10:
(http://i.imgur.com/35DM7PB.png)
11:
(http://i.imgur.com/VzwJHWX.png)
12:
(http://i.imgur.com/EAJ8ddA.png)
13:
(http://i.imgur.com/EyJVR0C.png)
14:
(http://i.imgur.com/M54lbBN.png)
15:
(http://i.imgur.com/AjIcP72.png)
16:
(http://i.imgur.com/5yH1cs7.png)
17:
(http://i.imgur.com/yVn0q7C.png)
18:
(http://i.imgur.com/5Hkdkrl.png)
imgur album (http://imgur.com/35DM7PB,VzwJHWX,EAJ8ddA,EyJVR0C,M54lbBN,AjIcP72,5yH1cs7,yVn0q7C,5Hkdkrl#0)
Again, let me know if you have any feedback!
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Woot, white text makes it amazing!
I like #8.
The text is bright and its shading isn't too noticeable.
The powerbutton similarly has a good contrast while not looking evil (like #6 and above).
However the outline is kinda jagged/aliased, and could probably be slightly brighter.
It might be nice to have the outline be the same hue as the content but darker (as in text outline is grey, powerbutton is green).
Maybe #9 would look nice with the drop shadow...
But again, the outline/shadow would probably depend on the context it's used in.
8:
(http://i.imgur.com/4XUQ5ED.png)
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In my opinion, #15 and #18 are really good.
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I've posted several versions with the white text but no one ever said they preferred it
Probably because it's always shown on white background.
Ah, that would make sense. The others had a very light outline/no shadow.
But on the website, for example, a white version would integrate better.
I agree. Of course, we could have dual dark/light versions. Or just one. Or whatever.
However the outline is kinda jagged/aliased, and could probably be slightly brighter.
Yeah... It's a bit frustrating because I work on a high DPI (Apple Retina) display, so it's got a great, crisp outline, but then exporting the bitmap for lower-DPI screens screws up some of the fine lines...
Here's a slightly better version, a bit higher res with better downsampling:
(http://i.imgur.com/Ke6xOll.png)
It might be nice to have the outline be the same hue as the content but darker (as in text outline is grey, powerbutton is green).
Here's one version. I had to make the outline a little thicker for it to show better.
(http://i.imgur.com/DftLxlg.png)
And here's one without an outline on the symbol:
(http://i.imgur.com/02BRgzM.png)
Maybe #9 would look nice with the drop shadow...
Here:
(http://i.imgur.com/g8pEPf0.png)
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You said it would be released THIS month... What happened laurent?
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You said it would be released THIS month... What happened laurent?
It's not May yet...
But, that said, it is now the 29th of April (in France), so I'm hoping a final decision has been made on the logo...
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I've posted several versions with the white text but no one ever said they preferred it
Probably because it's always shown on white background. But on the website, for example, a white version would integrate better.
SFML 2 is released today, right?
The logo is chosen today. Then it's finalized, integrated, and SFML 2 is released next week ;)
You said it would be released THIS month... What happened laurent?
It's not May yet...
But, that said, it is now the 29th of April (in France), so I'm hoping a final decision has been made on the logo...
But 1 week from now is next month...
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In Laurent's defense, he's had to make sure he picks a logo that EVERYONE likes. It wasn't an easy choice with so many good options.
Also, the API itself isn't changing for 2.0, so it's not like you need to wait for the official release.
You've waited this long. You can wait a little longer. :P
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I think Laurent chooses a logo that he thinks fits best for SFML, not that everybody likes. ;) And nobody stops you from fetching the "2.0"-tagged source code from the repository, compiling and using it. The binaries will be exactly the same as the ones you can download next week from the website.
Btw, this is a voluntary project. I always find it a little bit misguided to put pressure on the authors for releasing the product. If you want it to go fast etc., donate an amount that's high enough to pay Laurent for ~2 years, and he might consider working full-time on SFML. :P
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You said it would be released THIS month... What happened laurent?
Yes he said "it should be released", which implies some partial uncertainty. If he'd have been 100% sure, he would've said, "it will be released". Let's just wait a bit longer. :)
Besides, what's your gain by pointing this out? ::)
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Calm down... I'll do the release this evening :P
if my wife falls asleep early enough
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Have you decided on the exact variation of Cornstalks logo? Maybe a high-resolution version would be nice :)
For example, variation 9 with a light shadow might look interesting. It would look like this (but can of course be done better, I only had the png):
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/359_sfml-77.png)
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Calm down... I'll do the release this evening :P
if my wife falls asleep early enough
Haha, We are all the same ! ;D
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I think this one is the best:
(http://i.imgur.com/02BRgzM.png)
The shadow should probably not be included directly, it could be incompatible with other backgrounds or styles (it's easy to mess up an entire design by adding an element with shadow, if everything else is flat); but it can be added by people who need it, it don't think it hurts.
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I think this one is the best:
(http://i.imgur.com/02BRgzM.png)
Great choice! I really like how this one evolved into a very polished design.
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Should the logo include "simple & fast multimedia library"?
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Should the logo include "simple & fast multimedia library"?
Good idea, let's try that :)
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By the way, there's a problem with the chosen image, its left side seems to be slightly clipped (1 pixel).
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The logo is too large... I don't get it, is "SFML" part of the logo or is it just the power button ?
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It's part of the logo. Why do you say it's too large?
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This looks more like a banner than a logo to me.
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I think a lot of logos are designed like this (an image and the name side by side). Since they are separated, the image can be used alone when a smaller logo is needed.
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By the way, there's a problem with the chosen image, its left side seems to be slightly clipped (1 pixel).
That would be the exporting/downsampling... easily mitigated by padding during export. Here:
The image was a little large, so click to view it (http://i.imgur.com/ZTlqQFI.png)
Here's a few with the text below (again, these are a bit larger so I didn't embed them):
1: Click to view (http://i.imgur.com/BK2QK32.png)
2: Click to view (http://i.imgur.com/oxFCyZD.png)
3: Click to view (http://i.imgur.com/EJTjHlS.png)
4: Click to view (http://i.imgur.com/kxSgFvL.png)
SVG download (https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0BxWx_dIBnyRoSlo1SzFOMGZVY0E)
I haven't played with the "Simple and Fast Multimedia Library" text very much, and I have a final exam tomorrow I need to study for today so I don't have much more time to test things. Once again, the font is Soft Geometry Pro (Bold N) from here (http://www.fontsquirrel.com/fonts/geometry-soft-pro).
As for sub-text, I'm personally leaning towards #3, but with a bit smaller text with some more kerning between letters.
Oh, the outline is gray with an HSV of (0, 0, 125) and a stroke width of 1px (with the given resolution of the SVG).
For the final version, I would export a very high resolution version from Inkscape and then downsize it using another program, like Gimp or something. Exporting a low resolution one directly from Inkscape results in some poor sampling.
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The Soft Geometry Pro just looks awful in small letters ;)
I think the font I used here would be nice:
(https://legacy.sfmluploads.org/cache/pics/354_sfml-website3.png)
Unfortunately, I have to leave now, but I'll probably have some time in the later evening to work on it...
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The Soft Geometry Pro just looks awful in small letters ;)
Agreed :) Unfortunately I don't have time today to play with other variants (or positions). I will have plenty of time tomorrow though.
I think the font I used here would be nice:
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That looks nice. What font is it?
Alright folks, I'm out for the day. Sorry I can't spend longer on this today. My math DEs are killing me...
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I think it's Steinem.
Here are again the two PDFs with a few fonts:
http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4960.0;attach=611
http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4960.0;attach=612
By the way: Laurent, don't let yourself stress by curlybrace or iride. The worst thing we can do now, that we are so close to a final logo, is making a hurried decision and having to live with an awful result. Nobody cares about a few days, you can blame us for being too slow on the logo :P
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I'm not stressed, releasing it today was the initial plan. I think we have the final logo, so I can use it. Details such as adding "simple and fast multimedia library" can be done later. It's just a different variant of the logo.
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I misread then, I though you said it would be relased next week.
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Next week after yesterday, which was sunday, so it's now this week.
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Hey, just wanted to say congrats on getting this out. It's a great project that I've made good use of.
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Nice result!
Sorry if I missed it, is a Photoshop project file available for the logo?
It would be good to have to build logos for bindings. I suppose that the font is public domain or open source, too?
By the way, the website could use that pentagon as a favicon. ;)
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Nice result!
Sorry if I missed it, is a Photoshop project file available for the logo?
It would be good to have to build logos for bindings. I suppose that the font is public domain or open source, too?
Second!
I would very much like the original files so that a nice binding logo can be made.
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The logo sources will of course be available soon.
The favicon -> ctrl + F5 ;)
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First, I just want to give a HUGE thanks to everyone in this thread! Whether you contributed ideas and feedback to the logos I worked on, or submitted your own logos, or commented and contributed to other logos, it all was incredibly important and beneficial to the evolution of ideas and I don't think we'd be where we are without everyone's contributions. Ya'll are awesome.
Sorry if I missed it, is a Photoshop project file available for the logo?
I posted a large PNG version and the actual SVG (http://en.sfml-dev.org/forums/index.php?topic=4960.msg78285#msg78285). It was made in Inkscape. It looks like Laurent tweaked the sizings of things a little.
@Laurent: if there are any modifications or tweakings you'd like, let me know! I'm all done with school now so I have plenty of time!
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Also Laurent, if you don't mind, I'd like the SFML logo to be public domain (or if you think that's too broad, suggest an alternative; I don't really care too much about the license).
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Also Laurent, if you don't mind, I'd like the SFML logo to be public domain (or if you think that's too broad, suggest an alternative; I don't really care too much about the license).
Yeah I'd like to know about this. For example, can I modify it etc to fit the splash screen of my game?
(http://bp.io/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/rect4968-3.png)
Also congrats to everyone for the final logo, its very nice!
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I'm really happy with how everything turned out. That wedge idea really gave the logo a defining look and made it unique.
@eigenbom I really like the black on white.
Thanks everyone! Time to get back to coding and lurking ;-D
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@Laurent: if there are any modifications or tweakings you'd like, let me know! I'm all done with school now so I have plenty of time!
I think the logo is perfect now. There's just the "Simple and Fast Multimedia Library" text that you can try to integrate.
Also Laurent, if you don't mind, I'd like the SFML logo to be public domain
No problem.
can I modify it etc to fit the splash screen of my game?
Sure :)
Nice look, by the way.
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Like the new site very much.
Dunno why you chose "power on/off" as a logo. If it was rotate switch the pointer had to be in work state, usually pointing top right for "mood direction", depicting it from power on button.
Pentagon form fits nicely to the number of SFML modules, and is what ties current symbol to SFML, chances of people catching resemblance are slim. More distinct memorable variants would be like in an arrow pointing upwards example, lower part looked like a box and arrow indicated taking out tools.
On the other hand "power on" is everywhere, if symbol is well tied to SFML logo would be very memorable.
All is imo, when I forget about button and look at it as a box with tools feeling is better, for now idea is ok and logo is really well drawn.
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I like this logo, looks perfect. Simply and modern. Good job!
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What about creating a new page on sfml website where could people download sfml logo/splash screen logos for their games? Also someone could create some banners with SFML subject ;) These two things can make SFML more popular.
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What about creating a new page on sfml website where could people download sfml logo/splash screen logos for their games?
That's what I'm doing now. I couldn't do it before I had the logo :P
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What about creating a new page on sfml website where could people download sfml logo/splash screen logos for their games?
FYI, I uploaded it to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SFML2.svg) and put it on the SFML page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SFML). But yeah, it's not a bad idea to put it on the website.
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@Laurent: if there are any modifications or tweakings you'd like, let me know! I'm all done with school now so I have plenty of time!
I think the logo is perfect now. There's just the "Simple and Fast Multimedia Library" text that you can try to integrate.
Alright, I'll play with the subtext. It just looks like the size/positioning were slightly modified (which looks good, btw), and I wasn't sure if you did that with the PNG or SVG version, and if you want me to I can modify the SVG version to have the same size/positioning.
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It just looks like the size/positioning were slightly modified (which looks good, btw), and I wasn't sure if you did that with the PNG or SVG version, and if you want me to I can modify the SVG version to have the same size/positioning.
Ah, you're right. I had to slightly adjust the relative position of the image and text to fit the website. If you can adjust the source SVG, that would be perfect.
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It just looks like the size/positioning were slightly modified (which looks good, btw), and I wasn't sure if you did that with the PNG or SVG version, and if you want me to I can modify the SVG version to have the same size/positioning.
Ah, you're right. I had to slightly adjust the relative position of the image and text to fit the website. If you can adjust the source SVG, that would be perfect.
Cool. Here's a new version with the same relative sizing and positioning as what's on the website (https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0BxWx_dIBnyRoOS1OSVhDTHJkUzQ). I also used Scour to optimize the SVG and remove unused elements.
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Thanks :)
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Alright, here are a few tests. I used the Ubuntu font so it'd be the same as the rest of the website. Also, I moved the "SFML" up a little and didn't shrink it at all. The subtext is a very light gray. Thoughts?
1:
(http://i.imgur.com/ZCEJ7H2.png)
2:
(http://i.imgur.com/DmFWlpZ.png)
3:
(http://i.imgur.com/bWZ7poJ.png)
4:
(http://i.imgur.com/J3SMIjj.png)
imgur album (http://imgur.com/ZCEJ7H2,DmFWlpZ,J3SMIjj,bWZ7poJ)
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It looks good.
What do others think?
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I think it fits the style very nicely. Simple and Streamlined. Much like SFML.
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Now that you shifted "SFML" upwards, the color gradient is not aligned correctly anymore. The arc is interrupted :-\
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Now that you shifted "SFML" upwards, the color gradient is not aligned correctly anymore. The arc is interrupted :-\
Didn't even notice that. I guess that's why I'm a code monkey and not a graphic designer.
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I think it looks a little bit cramped now. I guess there's not much space in that green bar. You could try making the text smaller, but then it will probably be hard to read. Anyway, that's just nit-picking...
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Now that you shifted "SFML" upwards, the color gradient is not aligned correctly anymore. The arc is interrupted :-\
Oops, I didn't even think about that. Good eye.
I think it looks a little bit cramped now. I guess there's not much space in that green bar. You could try making the text smaller, but then it will probably be hard to read. Anyway, that's just nit-picking...
I had the same thoughts. I didn't want to make "SFML" smaller, but I had to make the sub-text a readable size.
@Laurent (and everyone): I like the idea of the sub text, but I think I prefer the clean, uncramped look and feel the logo has without the sub text. Your thoughts? Does anyone have any creative ideas for adding the sub text that doesn't come across as cramped?
Also Laurent, would you happen to have a copy of the old logo (high resolution if possible)? I'd like a copy for historical purposes, and am also considering putting it on Wikipedia to show the evolution of logos (it'll be interesting to see what SFML 3's logo looks like).
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Does anyone have any creative ideas for adding the sub text that doesn't come across as cramped?
One possibility to make it at least a little lighter would be to replace "and" with "&" and use lowercase letters, i.e.:
simple & fast multimedia library
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Does anyone have any creative ideas for adding the sub text that doesn't come across as cramped?
One possibility to make it at least a little lighter would be to replace "and" with "&" and use lowercase letters, i.e.:
simple & fast multimedia library
That does make it less wide, but I think vertical height is the main problem (and making the font any smaller makes it pretty hard to read).
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It would however make the text appearance a little bit more lightweight, so the space problem is less visible.
Otherwise, it seems like Laurent has to enlarge the green bar :D
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It would however make the text appearance a little bit more lightweight, so the space problem is less visible.
Otherwise, it seems like Laurent has to enlarge the green bar :D
Here is an image with an increased green bar height. All it is was two simple CSS changes.
Play around with it and put the logo on this and see if it looks any better and not cramped. If you want I can provide an even larger green bar 8)
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@Laurent (and everyone): I like the idea of the sub text, but I think I prefer the clean, uncramped look and feel the logo has without the sub text. Your thoughts? Does anyone have any creative ideas for adding the sub text that doesn't come across as cramped?
If there's no way to make it look good, I can live without the subtext.
Also Laurent, would you happen to have a copy of the old logo (high resolution if possible)? I'd like a copy for historical purposes, and am also considering putting it on Wikipedia to show the evolution of logos (it'll be interesting to see what SFML 3's logo looks like).
Sure, I'll post it later.
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Here is 530x320 PNG of the old logo. If it's not enough, I can send you the original PSD.
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I've uploaded big, small and SVG versions of the logo on the website.