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General discussions / Re: Comparison SFML vs SDL -> GUI and OGRE3D

« on: September 07, 2012, 06:29:49 pm »

You know that SFML does also network stuff?

Don't open that door

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General discussions / Re: Comparison SFML vs SDL -> GUI and OGRE3D

« on: September 07, 2012, 05:49:29 pm »

as mostly a good answer. -_-

i agree:
- SFML is a good start
- clearly you can not compare ogre and sfml ....
- in know ogre3D is "just for 3D rendering"! But in the meanwhile it gives components for it that supports all needed 2D drawings for a GUI (Gorilla(and 3D),MyGUI,CEGUI)
- Ogre 3D needs Threads -> so it support Threads... But here i think SFML do it better? SFML do it with the "half" sized code and do what it should do ....
- The window system in Ogre is as far as i tested buggy as hell .... With SFML i had no problems
-

A lot of very crappy code gets used in commercial products

I agree! Self produced 
- i havent tested OIS so far but much ogre users try to use other input systems. Dont know why? so i think SFML's Input system is better?


Result:
The best way to make a structured engine code would be to use SFML for:
- Input
- Windows
- Audio
- System Functions
Ogre for:
- 3D rendering
Network:
- Open ....

 

@eXpl0it3r
it seems u are a SFML Fan? Me too!
I just try to get in the 3D sector. Write a 3D Engine by myself is a no go ....
I just want (i think the most) the best possibly combination for:
- easy to read/understandable code
- good performance
- portability

 

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General discussions / Re: Comparison SFML vs SDL -> GUI and OGRE3D

« on: September 07, 2012, 04:50:02 pm »

Hi, eXpl0it3r

as excpected the first reply from u .
I created the UML by myself because i have no good experience with automated generated UML's.
And plus: my learning curve is steeper by copy paste the code, read the header files, reorganise the system and handle problems/Errors. Just my personal taste.

For what the post? in the last 2 months i read threads about SFML vs SDL, Ogre3D vs Irrlicht and GUI Systems.
But still i cannot make a decision.
The graphic in the attachment is my actual knowledge status.
Sure every answer is personal. Thats what i want.

e.g.

I don't really agree on the TGUI/SFGUI bullet points

Why? Its just my current information, or correctly: my current questions. Personaly i tend to TGUI because of images. But its still heavy under development.

- SFML is great but not  for 3D games
- Ogre3d is great for 3D rendering but is the OIS Input better then SFML ... i cannot see a serious window handling oder thread system in Ogre? it seems they plan a better version for 1.8 - 1.9 ?
- I like SFML for the input system the window handling, audio and the easy to read code
- I dont like SDL just because its C

So pls give me your personal attitude Any experience with 3D libs?

@FRex
One Developer means: if this person e.g Texus loose the interest or motivation the lib is meaningless?
The same for SFML -> so disadvantage

If a lib is used for commercial products u can be sure that the lib works great and is getting support from their developers. I can see this at SDL and Ogre3D. Ogre3D meanwhile gets good feedback and support from professional developers (just look in the forums). e.g. HellHeavenFX Ogre Plugin http://www.ogre3d.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=70299 -> so advantage

I tried the new SDL 2.0 but i looks like the updates comes slowly and the tutorials too.

@Nexus

The compile times were enormous (almost one minute for Hello World), apparently the developers didn't care about header dependencies. My first impression couldn't be much worse, so I took a look at an other library.

Same as me. Actually i try to split the core by myself. The core is insanely complex!

you could also take a look at complete game engines like Unity, it all depends on your needs and preferences

Yeah. Unity give u all for nothing . I am still a programmer and like it to code things by myself and have full control.

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General discussions / Comparison SFML vs SDL -> GUI and OGRE3D

« on: September 07, 2012, 03:22:23 pm »

Hello,

i'm a complete beginner in "Game" programming and watching SFML for a while...
Made a complete SFML - UML Model to understand the system (already modified  ) better.
SFML works like a charm so far. But now i want to look at 3D. At the moment i try to make a UML Model of Ogre3D.. hahaha what a crazy complex System.... 
But there are still some Questions open.
On the side i compare some libs. In the attached picture is my actual status.
Maybe someone did the research already or has the same questions.



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General discussions / Re: SFML API ugliness

« on: August 04, 2012, 08:01:25 pm »

this ^

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General discussions / Re: SFML API ugliness

« on: July 16, 2012, 05:24:16 pm »

I followed this thread and expected some suggestions or notes from BHXSpecter. But nothing.

As a noob i would be very interested what's so ugly in SFML.

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SFML projects / Re: TGUI: a c++ GUI for SFML (with Form Builder)

« on: June 28, 2012, 11:01:33 pm »

The GUI looks nice and the code is easy to understand.

I tested SFGUI and TGUI.
On my Windows 7 PC (30% lesser CPU usage then SFGUI? -> Without the sf::sleep(sf::milliseconds(100)); in TGUI Loop).

Why this? is SFGUI to complex? Or because of RenderWindow slower? Or just my imagination?