why sfml is not on the wikipedia ?

[dydya-stepa]

why?

[Laurent]

Ask wikipedia people

There are articles in other languages. As far as I remember, there was not enough reliable sources talking about SFML -- only blogs and forums. But it's a software library so I don't know what else they expect to get as sources.

Anyway, create a page and see what happens, if you want

[Nexus]

Maybe some SDL fanboys put all their effort into the deletion of the SFML article, hoping to limit the spread of the superior library

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SFML. But that's ridiculous, in the long term SFML will certainly have its own article.

[nietaki]

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Simple_and_Fast_Multimedia_Library_(2nd_nomination)

"Simple and Fast Multimedia Library" -wiki -wikipedia -blog -forum, Google Web returns 151 results it deems unique.

Well that's changed now, it's 62k results, and SFML is in linux distros' repositories.

But it's not the first time clueless wikipedia admins refuse to acknowledge an existing topic due to its low notability, yet allow 7-page articles about fictional bands that have their 10 second appearance in a pop culture movie. Wikipedia is messed up like that.

But I think, that when SFML 2.0 comes out and we prepare (list of successfull projects using SFML, references in less forum/bloggy media) I think SFML can (finally) find its way to Wikipedia.

[frosty]

Perhaps consider issuing a press release when 2.0 is ready? That may help generate some official coverage on more 'notable' tech/media sites.

[heishe]

SFML has for a long time had a PR issue. It was always (imho) by far the best 2D C++ game library out there for people targeting linux/windows, for various reasons, and with all the improvements of 2.0 there will simply be no doubt at all.

But for some reasons the library still isn't known enough. When people on popular sites like stackoverflow (or gamedev.stackexchange.com, or gamedev.net... etc.) ask for 2D libraries and clearly state that they use C++, 90% of the time the first poster will still suggest SDL.

[Groogy]

Well I can't say I've heard of any success stories with SFML compared to SDL. The only one I know from the top of my head is Atom Zombie Smasher which has been featured on popular channels on youtube.

Just the fact that SDL is originally developed from a guy who eventually got hired by Blizzard gives the library instant credibility. And before Blizzard he was part of some incredible games. Oooh god I loved Heretic!

If people develop something cool and put a "SFML" logo with it. People will of course take more notice and Wikipedia will have to put up a page. This is the most honest way according to me to get PR, really show what the library goes for. Heck if you don't got time to develop a whole game, put out a cool tech-demo using SFML and put it up on Youtube and brag about it on forums.

You can of course do more stuff to get noticed. Like Notch is doing to keep his PR up. He's not a good programmer or even a good game designer but he is good in keeping his face in the media.

[Groogy]

Actually I would like to add that I was watching the livestream that the game education at University of Skövde puts out for their first year students. Majority seemed to have been using SFML.

Ow and if anyone of you guys are reading this that attend that school. Drop out... really you guys won't learn what you need there. I'm saying this as a favour to you. Anyway can't get too much out of topic.

Maybe we should collect a big list of where SFML has been in use that might be of enough significance so that it can be put up on Wikipedia? For instance if it is used in indie games that are even available on Steam then I think it is of enough relevance to be put up there.

[danman]

I want to notice that there is also that : http://www.questmachine.org/article/Simple_Fast_and_Multimedia_Library_ou_SFML
but it's in french, and just incomplete too.

[HKei]

I always thought wikipedias standards for notability were kinda silly, but whatever.