Dev-C++?

[xylr117z4]

It may lack file managing and a good debugger but it's so lite and I've had nothing but good experiences with the IDE.
I'm Just wondering does anyone else is still using Dev-C++?

Edit: Okay to clearify I was talking about any version of Dev-C++ including the Orwell update (which is what I use.)
The only reason I wanted to ask was I know it's generally outdated since the last offical update was packed with Mingw 3.6 (I believe.)

[eXpl0it3r]

If you mean the original Dev-C++, then probably not...
But there's been some guy that took on the project and created a newer unoffical version, maybe someone uses it...

[Laurent]

I'm Just wondering does anyone else is still using Dev-C++?

I'm pretty sure dinosaurs still use it

[eXpl0it3r]

If you want to use it at least use the most recent one from 2nd October 2012, you can grab it from here.

[xylr117z4]

If you want to use it at least use the most recent one from 2nd October 2012, you can grab it from here.

I actually use one of his updates in the most recent one mingw 4.7 breaks a lot of my programs... but I guess I didn't really try to find the problem so I just reinstalled the one with 4.6.2

Edit: dunno this is general discution I guess the topic should of just asked about IDE's.

[FRex]

I'm Just wondering does anyone else is still using Dev-C++?

I'm pretty sure dinosaurs still use it

Not meaning to shittalk dev or anyone who uses it(since i used it once during exam ) but bunch of people claiming to know c++ and used dev that are around here:
1.don't know what array is
2.don't know what struct is(didn't even ask about pointers, unions or classes.. no point)
3.don't know program can be separated into many .h and .cpp files instead of writing everything in .cpp with main in it
4.don't know what almost any of stl classes are
5.don't really know what they're doing at all
6.claim they can't use C standard libs api(strlen, FILE*,fgets,print and scan in all varieties) since they 'know' c++ only
7.attempt to include .cpp, don't know what linkage and translation units are
8.can't read visual's error messages and guess what is wrong from them
9.shittalk visual c++(that uni wants us to use) as confusing, hard, crappy, complicated ect.

[Zephilinox]

but..aren't you a dinosaur, Rex?

jokes aside, Dev-CPP is used by people who don't know it is outdated, which normally means they don't know much about C++ but more C, or they learned only a tiny bit during their programming course 10 years ago.

and I too dislike Visual Studio, but mostly because it is microsoft-ware that I can't use on other platforms.

[eXpl0it3r]

Dev-CPP is used by people who don't know it is outdated

And nobody read my post...

Dev-C++ is again in development (latest release is from 2nd October 2012) and since Dev-C++ is only an IDE and the 'core' is MinGW, it doesn't really matter if feature XY isn't the newest one...

What IDE you like or not is a completly other and useless discussion...

[FRex]

Why would I be a dinosaur?
And just saying that dev is like paradise for not-so-good coders around here apparently
'oh, why split program into many files, why visual c++, in dev, one file, 2000 lines, everything worked, oh i don't know how to use C or c++ standard library or pointers or arrays'

[Zephilinox]

Rex = T-Rex = Dinosaur, it was a joke

I did read your post expl0iter, but I assumed you meant Orwell Dev-C++ or wxDev-C++, but the actual Dev-C++ has been revived? good to know.

edit: it was Orwell you were referring to, that's not the same as Dev-C++.

[eXpl0it3r]

And just saying that dev is like paradise for not-so-good coders around here apparently
'oh, why split program into many files, why visual c++, in dev, one file, 2000 lines, everything worked, oh i don't know how to use C or c++ standard library or pointers or arrays'

I don't get your problem... Just because people can't program and use application X doesn't make the application bad. At lot of kiddies use Visual Studio, but that doesn't make the software bad.
Your prejudices aren't really relevant to anyone else than you.

I did read your post expl0iter, but I assumed you meant Orwell Dev-C++ or wxDev-C++, but the actual Dev-C++ has been revived? good to know.

edit: it was Orwell you were referring to, that's not the same as Dev-C++.

So? Just because it's not the official one it isn't usable or what's the argument here?

Just so you know, I don't use Dev-C++, but I don't see a reason to hold up the old prejudices when there's a new version that's constantly in development...

[FRex]

I don't get your problem... Just because people can't program and use application X doesn't make the application bad. At lot of kiddies use Visual Studio, but that doesn't make the software bad.
Your prejudices aren't really relevant to anyone else than you.

The thing is that I haven't heard a complain like 'oh, why split program into many files, why visual c++, in xxx, one file, 2000 lines, everything worked, oh i don't know how to use C or c++ standard library or pointers or arrays' with xxx being anything other than dev. And dev is brain-dead simple, I could easily use it without seeing it ever before with no problems.
Also dev and builder are often(I think, I was 'taught' in builder and year end exam had choice of code blocks and dev) used in our (extremely bad) high schools to teach c++ that is more of C with a bit of stl mixed in.

[xylr117z4]

Why would I be a dinosaur?
And just saying that dev is like paradise for not-so-good coders around here apparently
'oh, why split program into many files, why visual c++, in dev, one file, 2000 lines, everything worked, oh i don't know how to use C or c++ standard library or pointers or arrays'

I guess there would be a lot of people who don't know what they're talking about but I wouldn't say that Dev-c++ is more common for those people to use.

And if you would I'd say that OOP is the best thing that ever happened to programming.

[Zephilinox]

And just saying that dev is like paradise for not-so-good coders around here apparently
'oh, why split program into many files, why visual c++, in dev, one file, 2000 lines, everything worked, oh i don't know how to use C or c++ standard library or pointers or arrays'

I don't get your problem... Just because people can't program and use application X doesn't make the application bad. At lot of kiddies use Visual Studio, but that doesn't make the software bad.
Your prejudices aren't really relevant to anyone else than you.

I did read your post expl0iter, but I assumed you meant Orwell Dev-C++ or wxDev-C++, but the actual Dev-C++ has been revived? good to know.

edit: it was Orwell you were referring to, that's not the same as Dev-C++.

So? Just because it's not the official one it isn't usable or what's the argument here?

Just so you know, I don't use Dev-C++, but I don't see a reason to hold up the old prejudices when there's a new version that's constantly in development...

I read your post, said Dev-C++ was outdated, and then you said I didn't read your post, so I mentioned I did and that I assumed you meant OrwellDev-C++ or the WX widgets version (I didn't bother clicking the link) and not the actual, outdated, orginal, Dev-C++ which is the only version this thread is referring to, not any of the newer forks.

So the argument is that the several forks of Dev-C++ are not the ones mentioned in this topic, since this topic only cares about the original Dev-C++

[eXpl0it3r]

So the argument is that the several forks of Dev-C++ are not the ones mentioned in this topic, since this topic only cares about the original Dev-C++

From what would you deduce that 'fact'?
The OP was only talking about Dev-C++, he probably was using the original one, but never stated that.
On the other hand I suggested him to use one of the newer forks, so the discussion was very well also about the newer forks.