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Re: Theme suggestions now open!
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2014, 02:00:55 pm »
Go on and create us your design :)

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« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2014, 02:04:25 pm »
Go on and create us your design :)
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« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2014, 02:05:00 pm »
Lol, dat site design. If I should be brutal honest, I would say that I can not take site with such design serious at all.

Whatever.... if fancy designs make sites more usable might as well screw over half the internet.

On top of that, don't bother complaining unless you actually feel like joining the jam.

Oh, and you get 2 weeks maximum starting with this code: https://github.com/jebbs/sfmlgamejam
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« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2014, 02:23:36 pm »
Lol, dat site design. If I should be brutal honest, I would say that I can not take site with such design serious at all.

Whatever.... if fancy designs make sites more usable might as well screw over half the internet.

On top of that, don't bother complaining unless you actually feel like joining the jam.

Oh, and you get 2 weeks maximum starting with this code: https://github.com/jebbs/sfmlgamejam

http://blog.usabilla.com/visual-appeal-vs-functionality-web-design/

And is that sfmlgamejam site code even working? Becouse from what I browsed, it is real mess lol.
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« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2014, 02:31:26 pm »
Lol, dat site design. If I should be brutal honest, I would say that I can not take site with such design serious at all.
[...]
And is that sfmlgamejam site code even working? Becouse from what I browsed, it is real mess lol.
Instead of just trolling around, you could for example give concrete feedback about what can be improved. Jebbs and zsbzsb put quite a bit of effort into the game jam organization, and they deserve at least constructive criticism.

By the way: when talking about "taking serious", you should probably not use that language and memes...
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« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2014, 02:39:00 pm »
Lol, dat site design. If I should be brutal honest, I would say that I can not take site with such design serious at all.
[...]
And is that sfmlgamejam site code even working? Becouse from what I browsed, it is real mess lol.
Instead of just trolling around, you could for example give concrete feedback about what can be improved. Jebbs and zsbzsb put quite a bit of effort into the game jam organization, and they deserve at least constructive criticism.

By the way: when talking about "taking serious", you should probably not use that language and memes...
For example, using <center> and <br> design-wise is deprecated, font is not good, too much padding on content (not matching header size) also too much of <ul>. And also, many common things what should be in <header> are simply not there. And. no language specified in main <html> tag. That are just few things what I noticed when I pressed View source code on SFML Game Jam site index.
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« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2014, 02:46:29 pm »
http://blog.usabilla.com/visual-appeal-vs-functionality-web-design/

  • Attract attention - not needed because anyone in the community that wants to participate knows where it is.
  • Creates a first impression - again a community site and we aren't trying to impress anyone here
  • Build relationships - already happening on the forums and IRC, out of this sites intent
  • Increase tolerance - seems to me the only problem is that the theme is a little too basic for some people, as has been stated, this will be improved
  • Affects emotions - need I say more? its not the purpose of the site

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And is that sfmlgamejam site code even working? Becouse from what I browsed, it is real mess lol.

Nope that isn't working at all, as I said, you get two weeks maximum to build a site from scratch (raw PHP and HTML/CSS) that is workable.


For example, using <center> and <br> design-wise is deprecated, font is not good, too much padding on content (not matching header size) also too much of <ul>. And also, many common things what should be in <header> are simply not there. And. no language specified in main <html> tag. That are just few things what I noticed when I pressed View source code on SFML Game Jam site index.

<center> isn't used anywhere.......... <br> is valid HTML5 and works fine for adding space between text. Doctype has already been fixed, just not uploaded yet.
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« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2014, 02:52:48 pm »
Lol, dat site design. If I should be brutal honest, I would say that I can not take site with such design serious at all.
If I'm brutal honest, you've lost all credibility by just flaming around here. We all know that the design is not up to the standards of today, but instead of just "lol-ing" at it, we see and appreciate the work that has been put into within two weeks to actually get it up and running for the game jam.

Since it's open source, feel free to contribute. Talking is easy, doing is hard.
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« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2014, 02:53:15 pm »
    http://blog.usabilla.com/visual-appeal-vs-functionality-web-design/

    • Attract attention - not needed because anyone in the community that wants to participate knows where it is.
    • Creates a first impression - again a community site and we aren't trying to impress anyone here
    • Build relationships - already happening on the forums and IRC, out of this sites intent
    • Increase tolerance - seems to me the only problem is that the theme is a little too basic for some people, as has been stated, this will be improved
    • Affects emotions - need I say more? its not the purpose of the site

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    And is that sfmlgamejam site code even working? Becouse from what I browsed, it is real mess lol.

    Nope that isn't working at all, as I said, you get two weeks maximum to build a site from scratch (raw PHP and HTML/CSS) that is workable.


    For example, using <center> and <br> design-wise is deprecated, font is not good, too much padding on content (not matching header size) also too much of <ul>. And also, many common things what should be in <header> are simply not there. And. no language specified in main <html> tag. That are just few things what I noticed when I pressed View source code on SFML Game Jam site index.

    <center> isn't used anywhere.......... <br> is valid HTML5 and works fine for adding space between text. Doctype has already been fixed, just not uploaded yet.[/list]
    https://github.com/Jebbs/sfmlgamejam/blob/master/header.php <center>
    And you ignored that you have missing all properties in header such like content, author and such.
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    « Reply #24 on: March 03, 2014, 02:55:36 pm »
    For example, using <center> and <br> design-wise is deprecated, font is not good, too much padding on content (not matching header size) also too much of <ul>. And also, many common things what should be in <header> are simply not there. And. no language specified in main <html> tag. That are just few things what I noticed when I pressed View source code on SFML Game Jam site index.

    <html> and <br> are html5 compliant. Language and charset can be defined in meta tags.

    Are you talking about <header> html5 tag or <head> tag ? Because nothing is mandatory in <header> tag, it just do indicate the title part of a logically linked block (like the website itself, an article, etc.)

    Yes some metas are missing from <head> to be googlebot-compliant, but since people that get on SFML Jam website probably come from here (meaning this forum), it's not an absolute obligation to have them (but can be added whenever possible)

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    « Reply #25 on: March 03, 2014, 02:59:54 pm »
    I spoted that (2 times) in header.php file :
    </br>
    [/s]

    this is wrong :) it should be
    <br>

    (maybe there are more of these in other files)[/s]

    Edit: some time I could spend a few of my hours to fix things, and do a pull request. I think we shouldn't put the whole work on one/two person, it's a community-based website afterall

    Edit2: zsbzsb or Jebbs, could you provide some SQL file that would create the database, so it's easier for anyone to get the website and make changes ?

    Edit 3 : I had the wrong repo as well, the good one is https://github.com/zsbzsb/sfmlgamejam
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    « Reply #26 on: March 03, 2014, 03:08:13 pm »
    Please stop quoting full replies, it makes the thread unreadable.

    https://github.com/Jebbs/sfmlgamejam/blob/master/header.php <center>
    And you ignored that you have missing all properties in header such like content, author and such.

    Who said that was the site's source code? All I said was that if you wanted to do better that is where you must start. That is where I started  ;)

    And all those tags aren't even required. Drop the following code into this validator and let me know the result.

    <!doctype html>
    <title>HTML5 Minimal Document</title>
    Will this page display? It should. It's written with the HTML5 doctype.]
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    « Reply #27 on: March 03, 2014, 03:33:53 pm »
    Out of interest, do you need any assistance with the website? I used to be a web developer by profession before I switch to C++ application development, so might be able to give a hand. I'm not too shabby with design either.
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    « Reply #28 on: March 03, 2014, 03:47:08 pm »
    Out of interest, do you need any assistance with the website? I used to be a web developer by profession before I switch to C++ application development, so might be able to give a hand. I'm not too shabby with design either.

    Well anyone is feel free to contribute with pull requests. The actual code for the site that I have done is here. Everything works, mainly the issue is that the theme should be improved somewhat.

    But along the line, I think the community should focus on getting sfmlprojects.org up and running. Source for that is available here. Contact via twitter @sfmlprojects or on IRC  @ irc.boxbox.org #sfmlprojects
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    « Reply #29 on: March 03, 2014, 04:50:39 pm »
    Out of interest, do you need any assistance with the website? I used to be a web developer by profession before I switch to C++ application development, so might be able to give a hand. I'm not too shabby with design either.

    Well anyone is feel free to contribute with pull requests. The actual code for the site that I have done is here. Everything works, mainly the issue is that the theme should be improved somewhat.

    But along the line, I think the community should focus on getting sfmlprojects.org up and running. Source for that is available here. Contact via twitter @sfmlprojects or on IRC  @ irc.boxbox.org #sfmlprojects
    Using Bootstrap for it? Wow that is great, I can help later with design-related things, but I am not core coder, mainly designer and 80% of time when designing sites I am working with Bootstrap.
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